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Playstation is cutting off X sharing options
- snvzz 3y agoA walled garden cuts a platform it doesn't like, news at 11. I don't even like Twitter, but this is yet another reason I stick to PC gaming.
- 0x6c6f6c 3y agoTwitter applied a ton of pricing changes around working with their API, and simply connecting users and offering an integration with it may not be worth their time considering the sheer number of users. Accusing PlayStation of being the walled garden here is laughable considering Xs practices.
- 542458 3y agoYeah, I work for a company that offered a product that (among many other features) was used by medium-to-large institutional customers to post to and query Twitter… even getting a quote from X was a journey, but when it finally arrived it was a very very large amount of money for heavily restricted API access. We had to drop the feature. I wouldn’t be surprised in Sony was offered a similarly unrealistic quote. Opinions are my own.
- shiroiuma 3y ago>but when it finally arrived it was a very very large amount of money for heavily restricted API access. I'm glad to see that X has taken this route, and I look forward to seeing the fruits of their ingenious business acumen. I hope they raise their prices even more.
- threeseed 3y agoRaising their prices even more won't make a difference. It's already too expensive which is why all the useful integrations have dropped off the platform.
- krmboya 3y agoBot activity had been an issue on the platform for years. Perhaps they've decided to cut off all bots so that only humans are left there
- ThatPlayer 3y agoProblem bots don't use the provided API. Also if that was the goal, they'd disable the API altogether.
- naet 3y agoThe bot problem has not even slightly been solved by charging for API access, while lots of real value drivers have left the platform. I have tons of crypto and NFT bot spam waiting for me every time I log back in.
- 542458 3y agoTo be clear, this isn’t Cambridge Analytica or spammer stuff. This was about publishing low-volume high-value content, and we didn’t have any sort of data gathering or analytics features.
- Firmwarrior 3y ago> Twitter applied a ton of pricing changes around working with their API, and simply connecting users and offering an integration with it may not be worth their time considering the sheer number of users. The first chunk of your comment provided a lot of useful context > Accusing PlayStation of being [a] walled garden ???????????????????????? is this argumentative fanboyism really helping anyone here? Did they add some way to sideload your own apps or do what you want with photos and videos on the device at some point while I wasn't paying attention? This is why people hate walled gardens. If everything is some half-assed walled garden, your ability to do interesting stuff gets painfully curtailed.
- snvzz 3y ago>Accusing PlayStation of being the walled garden... There was no accusation. It is merely a statement of fact.
- ericmay 3y agoIt’s not a good reason. Steam for example can also make these changes as they see fit. They aren’t required to support a 3rd party integration if it doesn’t suit their business. Sony is no different here.
- Seb-C 3y agoIn the developer tools, Steam already disabled the button to add a Twitter account to a game actually
- snvzz 3y ago>Steam for example can also make these changes as they see fit. Yes, but it's my computer and it is much easier for me to get the job done relative to doing it on some PlayStation, even without any help from steam.
- godelski 3y agoI'm not sure how this is a Sony problem. Isn't it Twitter integrating pricing? I mean it would be one thing if Sony is scraping and downloading a bunch of shit, but if it is just uploading then shouldn't Twitter be encouraging that? Because it's a feature that helps users stay on __their__ platform?
- p1necone 3y agoI don't think it's really relevant here whether PlayStation is a walled garden or not. As other commenters have pointed out, Sony would have been paying Twitter for API access in order to provide this service to customers and they have no control over Twitter changing pricing or TOS - which was probably the reason for this feature going away. Sony not giving you a way to easily extract your own data from the system is a consequence of it being a walled garden, but there's no onus on Sony to integrate specifically with other arbitrary third parties.
- naet 3y agoTwitter charges 42 thousand a month for enterprise API access. Why would Sony pay 500 thousand a year to make posting screenshots to Twitter slightly easier? It has nothing to do with whether or not the PS5 is a walled garden or their feelings on Twitter as a platform. They liked it enough to add the feature in the first place, and when it didn't make financial sense, due to some highly questionable choices by the new CEO, they discontinued it. If Musk had any business sense he would have let them keep posting for free to drive up engagement, but he's obviously made some bad decisions and dramatically tanked the value of Twitter compared with what he paid for it so I can't speak to what drives his decision making process. You still can easily post your PS5 media to Twitter, you just have to do it yourself instead of use the built in PS5 sharing feature. Much like most PC games that function without a dedicated Twitter sharing feature.
- jncfhnb 3y agoThe digital markets act may make this illegal. Although if twitter wants to push dumb pricing then it may have to push the costs onto consumers
- toomuchtodo 3y ago> Microsoft disabled Xbox clip sharing to X from consoles and PCs in April. Did the Digital Markets Act incur any outcomes when this occurred?
- jncfhnb 3y agoGame consoles are not on the current list. And the current list has not passed the initial deadline to demand compliance
- kondro 3y agoI'd be surprised if the Act can force a company to pay another company.
- jncfhnb 3y agoIt cannot. But preventing twitter from being able to be accessed may not hold up.
- threeseed 3y agoNo it won't. EU has already designated the 6 companies deemed to be gatekeepers: Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, ByteDance, Meta, Microsoft And the act has never demanded that two companies must integrate with each other.
- jncfhnb 3y agoIt is true that games consoles are not on the initial list of gatekeepers. It is also true that companies don’t need to “integrate”. But they do need to make their services compatible with other third party apps. Gatekeepers will need to open up various APIs.
- simondotau 3y agoI’m not in the console gaming scene, but was this feature really used that much? Based on my own experience of Twitter, it seems not. (Remember, Sony has sold over 100 million PS4s and coming up to 50 million PS5s. Twitter is a global platform. The threshold for what constitutes "that much" is a lot higher than might be intuitive.) And even to the extent that it was used, most of the benefit probably accrued to Sony and game publishers than to the Twitter platform. Nobody is joining Twitter to find out which map of Uncharted Jimmy is currently playing. For people who engage with Twitter in any other way, such tweets might feel a bit like spam and unlikely to do much for the stickiness of the platform, but perhaps decent marketing for the game in question.
- amatecha 3y agoFor me, it was a pretty handy way to transfer screenshots off-device: post to private twitter account, log into twitter account on any computer and save the images :)
- evan_ 3y agoYou can do that with the mobile app now, just FYI.
- faizmokh 3y agoI guess it depends on your interest and followings. Just try using "Latest search" on Twitter with #PS4Share or #PS5Share and you can see that people love to share their gameplay.
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- snarkyturtle 3y agoSocial sharing in general isn’t really used I’ve found. Case-in-point: Spotify Wrapped. The vast of the majority of the users just screenshot their phones instead of simply clicking a button to share on a platform. Granted, it’s harder to do that on the Playstation but the alternative is just … not sharing it at all which probably is the case for most gamers.
- panzi 3y agoI wish I could post to Mastodon from my Switch.
- lenerdenator 3y agoCan we stop calling it "X"? Like... no, dickhead, I don't care how much money you spent on the company. It's Twitter. Renaming things is dumb, and it's time someone fell on a sword for doing it. Apparently the Sears Tower wasn't enough of a warning.
- pkulak 3y agoWhy do reporters feel they need to call it “X”? Can they be sued or something? I feel like no.
- lijok 3y agoIt’s Twttr, actually
- josu 3y agoIt's Odeo, actually
- bigstrat2003 3y agoYes, please. Similarly I wish people would stop calling Facebook "Meta". No, it's still Facebook and always will be.
- benguild 3y agoI used this.
- fomine3 3y agoTwitter is dying, what they should next is to support fediverse