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You aren’t being made a servant when you’re asked to clean after yourself. If you want a hotel then go to one.

sarchertech 3y ago
When you pay a several hundred dollar “cleaning fee”, it tends to make you feel a little put out when you read instructions asking you to empty all the trash cans, strip the beds, do the dishes etc…
ketzo 3y ago
Ehhh. I’ve seen some pretty egregious cleaning instructions. Obviously it’s wildly subjective, but there’s a line. I’m totally happy to take out the trash on my way out, or strip the linens and leave them in the laundry area! Scrubbing toilets and showers, or hand-washing all the dishes I used (both real requirements I have personally seen)? And then charging a multi-hundred dollar cleaning fee? Yeaaaaah, that’s a little ridiculous.
ghaff 3y ago
If something is being presented as the equivalent of a B&B, charged a cleaning fee, and being asked to do a full cleaning--yes, I think that's ridiculous. AirBnB isn't presented as couchsurfing or spending a weekend at a relative's house.
fsckboy 3y ago
The cleaning and cleaning fee issue came to a head and went off a cliff after Covid. To maintain their business, AirBNB wanted to guarantee guests that places had been disinfected. Hosts didn't want to pay for that out of their end, so fees were added. I moved cross country and around for a time in that period and I ended up staying in many many airbnb's. I was asked to clean up after myself, and I was paying a hefty cleaning fee, and ... and I would walk barefoot in my AirBNB for 5 minutes and get filthy feet, so the place wasn't ever actually being cleaned at all. I switched to hotels, which were a complete bargain during Covid anyway. Also, if you're living free-n-easy, extending your hotel stay is generally easy; extending your airbnb because you are liking the location, if it's a nice airbnb, nope, somebody else rented it for the weekend. Also, the whole "5 star rating system" (and this goes way beyond airbnb) where the host gets punished for ratings imperfection, puts a lot of pressure on calling out a grubby but really nice host elderly couple. These rating systems should always be on a curve, 5 out of 10 means average and most of what you are offered is 5 out of 10, pay more to get more, or something. I remember some the earlier days of airbnb which were days of innocence, friendliness, and unique experiences.
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preciousoo 3y ago
Go on any Airbnb host forum(Reddit, Facebook, TikTok, pick your poison), search “cleaning” or “cleaning fee” then come back to this comment. Those people extort with cleaning fees, and laugh about it

When you pay a several hundred dollar “cleaning fee”, it tends to make you feel a little put out when you read instructions asking you to empty all the trash cans, strip the beds, do the dishes etc…

ketzo 3y ago

Ehhh. I’ve seen some pretty egregious cleaning instructions. Obviously it’s wildly subjective, but there’s a line. I’m totally happy to take out the trash on my way out, or strip the linens and leave them in the laundry area! Scrubbing toilets and showers, or hand-washing all the dishes I used (both real requirements I have personally seen)? And then charging a multi-hundred dollar cleaning fee? Yeaaaaah, that’s a little ridiculous.

ghaff 3y ago

If something is being presented as the equivalent of a B&B, charged a cleaning fee, and being asked to do a full cleaning--yes, I think that's ridiculous. AirBnB isn't presented as couchsurfing or spending a weekend at a relative's house.

fsckboy 3y ago

The cleaning and cleaning fee issue came to a head and went off a cliff after Covid. To maintain their business, AirBNB wanted to guarantee guests that places had been disinfected. Hosts didn't want to pay for that out of their end, so fees were added. I moved cross country and around for a time in that period and I ended up staying in many many airbnb's. I was asked to clean up after myself, and I was paying a hefty cleaning fee, and ... and I would walk barefoot in my AirBNB for 5 minutes and get filthy feet, so the place wasn't ever actually being cleaned at all. I switched to hotels, which were a complete bargain during Covid anyway. Also, if you're living free-n-easy, extending your hotel stay is generally easy; extending your airbnb because you are liking the location, if it's a nice airbnb, nope, somebody else rented it for the weekend. Also, the whole "5 star rating system" (and this goes way beyond airbnb) where the host gets punished for ratings imperfection, puts a lot of pressure on calling out a grubby but really nice host elderly couple. These rating systems should always be on a curve, 5 out of 10 means average and most of what you are offered is 5 out of 10, pay more to get more, or something. I remember some the earlier days of airbnb which were days of innocence, friendliness, and unique experiences.

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preciousoo 3y ago

Go on any Airbnb host forum(Reddit, Facebook, TikTok, pick your poison), search “cleaning” or “cleaning fee” then come back to this comment. Those people extort with cleaning fees, and laugh about it