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“GPTs” (terrible name) === Agents

arcanemachiner 3y ago
Agreed, but one is a recognizable trademark (I assume) and one is a generic catch-all term that means a lot of things and would probably be worse from a branding/marketing perspective.
golol 3y ago
Not even. An agent should primarily operate in some kind of self-prompting loop. Afaik xou can not specify complex and branching looping behaviors for GPTs.
- zer0c00ler 3y ago
  ChatGPT and plugins were already agents. An agent just does stuff on somebody else’s behalf. Browsing, browses the Internet for the user, code interpreter creates and runs Python code for the user… What you describe are what’s called autonomous agents, and i agree that I also expected some interesting announcement there but probably too many security issues.
  - golol 3y ago
    Well, I would say that when people at the moment say agent they mean what you call autonomous agent. Browsing or code interpreter is just LLM + tool use. I think there is a really large difference in quality between a system that just interacts 1-2 times with some tool/API before giving an answer and one that runs in a loop with undefined length (until it decides to terminate). It's like the difference between programming without loops or recursion vs with them. Night and day.
    - jondwillis 3y ago
      Currently the loop results in compounding errors and attention failure. Even with reviews, grounding information, and veracity checks in place by other LLMs it still happens.
      - golol 3y ago
        Yes, agents don't really work yet, I agree.
- jondwillis 3y ago
  You can have a GPT/Assistant/Agent (OpenAI is using all three terms) call out to an API that has a looping agent behind it.
ddmma 3y ago
Exactly my point, then you can register .agency domain based on your area of ‘agent’ expertise. Sorry, but I won’t bite the marketplace as normally wipe the top agents with official ones, like apple did with native apps. It’s crowdsourced AGI
dgreen899 3y ago
they are trying to trademark "GPT" and "GPTs"..in order to do this...they need to use it widely and specifically...i don't believe that it has gone through yet..so in order for it be approved they will use this name...then prevent others from using it....thats the game...

Agreed, but one is a recognizable trademark (I assume) and one is a generic catch-all term that means a lot of things and would probably be worse from a branding/marketing perspective.

golol 3y ago

Not even. An agent should primarily operate in some kind of self-prompting loop. Afaik xou can not specify complex and branching looping behaviors for GPTs.

zer0c00ler 3y ago
ChatGPT and plugins were already agents. An agent just does stuff on somebody else’s behalf. Browsing, browses the Internet for the user, code interpreter creates and runs Python code for the user… What you describe are what’s called autonomous agents, and i agree that I also expected some interesting announcement there but probably too many security issues.
- golol 3y ago
  Well, I would say that when people at the moment say agent they mean what you call autonomous agent. Browsing or code interpreter is just LLM + tool use. I think there is a really large difference in quality between a system that just interacts 1-2 times with some tool/API before giving an answer and one that runs in a loop with undefined length (until it decides to terminate). It's like the difference between programming without loops or recursion vs with them. Night and day.
  - jondwillis 3y ago
    Currently the loop results in compounding errors and attention failure. Even with reviews, grounding information, and veracity checks in place by other LLMs it still happens.
    - golol 3y ago
      Yes, agents don't really work yet, I agree.
jondwillis 3y ago
You can have a GPT/Assistant/Agent (OpenAI is using all three terms) call out to an API that has a looping agent behind it.

ddmma 3y ago

Exactly my point, then you can register .agency domain based on your area of ‘agent’ expertise. Sorry, but I won’t bite the marketplace as normally wipe the top agents with official ones, like apple did with native apps. It’s crowdsourced AGI

dgreen899 3y ago

they are trying to trademark "GPT" and "GPTs"..in order to do this...they need to use it widely and specifically...i don't believe that it has gone through yet..so in order for it be approved they will use this name...then prevent others from using it....thats the game...