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I wouldn't be surprised if most of the moderation is done via elaborate AI automation. Also RIP chatgpt plugnins

shmoogy 3y ago
Not sure about currently - but budget increases seemed to be manually reviewed in a queue. I had to increase monthly budget amounts twice and it took like 10-30 hours for each approval, interesting to see how their processes advance.
SheinhardtWigCo 3y ago
Tickets filed by plugin developers (including requests to publish or update a plugin) are handled by bots. The only contact I've had with a human there has been via backchannels.
- zer0c00ler 3y ago
  Yes, thats also why policies aren’t enforced. I assume OpenAI knew all along that plugins probably are a dead end. Wonder if they will be around 6 months from now. But Actions will have all the same security challenges basically.
joshspankit 3y ago
I’m suddenly worried about that future. The more elaborate the moderation tooling, the faster the race to the bottom gets as revenue drives black-hat marketers to become experts in circumventing AI moderation. It could end up being Google “S”EO all over again where we eventually ended up with very little real information in the results.
- intended 3y ago
  In theory yes, however thats the long run scenario. The short term and middle term are complex enough that the long run becomes irrelevant. Moderation tooling is not as elaborate as we would hope, and all your work is with humans - who keep adapting.
  - joshspankit 3y ago
    I don’t think it’s that far away. It’s not just that technology has been accelerating over the past few decades, it’s that the humans have been gaining more and more knowledge about the bigger fundamental patterns that technology uses. As a very rough example: if their demographic is Americans they will come out the gate with proper spelling, grammar and sentence structure that’s been run through LLM(s), and an overall branding that does not raise any immediate red flags. If someone tries to implement a blacklist or whitelist of words, they will walk past it like it wasn’t even there.

Not sure about currently - but budget increases seemed to be manually reviewed in a queue. I had to increase monthly budget amounts twice and it took like 10-30 hours for each approval, interesting to see how their processes advance.

SheinhardtWigCo 3y ago

Tickets filed by plugin developers (including requests to publish or update a plugin) are handled by bots. The only contact I've had with a human there has been via backchannels.

zer0c00ler 3y ago
Yes, thats also why policies aren’t enforced. I assume OpenAI knew all along that plugins probably are a dead end. Wonder if they will be around 6 months from now. But Actions will have all the same security challenges basically.

joshspankit 3y ago

I’m suddenly worried about that future. The more elaborate the moderation tooling, the faster the race to the bottom gets as revenue drives black-hat marketers to become experts in circumventing AI moderation. It could end up being Google “S”EO all over again where we eventually ended up with very little real information in the results.

intended 3y ago
In theory yes, however thats the long run scenario. The short term and middle term are complex enough that the long run becomes irrelevant. Moderation tooling is not as elaborate as we would hope, and all your work is with humans - who keep adapting.
- joshspankit 3y ago
  I don’t think it’s that far away. It’s not just that technology has been accelerating over the past few decades, it’s that the humans have been gaining more and more knowledge about the bigger fundamental patterns that technology uses. As a very rough example: if their demographic is Americans they will come out the gate with proper spelling, grammar and sentence structure that’s been run through LLM(s), and an overall branding that does not raise any immediate red flags. If someone tries to implement a blacklist or whitelist of words, they will walk past it like it wasn’t even there.