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I have serious concerns about anything from X at this point. At the risk of going into some amateur psychological analysis of Elon Musk I think he's pretty wel

I have serious concerns about anything from X at this point. At the risk of going into some amateur psychological analysis of Elon Musk I think he's pretty well past the point of what happens to so many people insulated by wealth, power, influence, their carefully crafted bubbles/echo chambers, etc. For example, for all of his talk of bias I am completely unable to get positive and glowing reviews of Tesla stuff out of my X feed. Every single day I label the non-stop Tesla, Cybertruck, posts from Elon himself, etc as "Not interesting to me". I've never given the algorithm any reason to think I want this stuff repeatedly shoved in my face and actually quite the contrary as I've said. I've been doing this for at least a month and yet they persist. It's pretty clear he has his "thumb on the scale" (to put it mildly) for his own ample self-interests, ego, politics, etc. Plenty of people and platforms are of course prone to the same issues but from what I've seen this is so gallingly obvious with him and X it's borderline insulting to those of us that have a modicum of understanding of what's going on here. I think it's very highly likely this will be reflected in anything he or X produces.

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 3y ago
Would you mind posting a screenshot of your phone screentime? Just curious
- kkielhofner 3y ago
  I overwhelmingly use X on desktop (browser) so I'm not sure how this would be helpful.
starik36 3y ago
Unfollow people that follow him and you won't get this content. My content used to be all over the place as well. After I've done the pruning, now it's various people talking about topics that I care about. Obviously it's not perfect - things leak through, but far better. Same with Facebook, my feed is now pretty much photos and news from friends and family.
extr 3y ago
It’s your algorithm. I mostly see content where he’s being dunked on or Tesla is the butt of a joke.
agloe_dreams 3y ago
This is easily explained but not in a positive way. X Subscribers get up-ranked in replies and For You. 99% of anyone who would subscribe to X are Elon Fans. As a result, you get the fanboys.
phh 3y ago
I was going to say that I never saw anything like that, but I remembered I followed Musk's advice the day he recommended it: I disabled recommendations and only use the "follows" view.
- araes 3y ago
  What? If that's Musk's own advice ... then how is that not the default? O_o "Our default sucks, use this workaround" "Except you bought the place"
  - phh 3y ago
    https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-encourages-twitter-users-to-go-chronological https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-encourages-twitter-user...
misiti3780 3y ago
I dont have that experience at all, and im a tesla owner. I see more negative tesla stuff than positive, especially about stock value and cybertruck quality problems.
numpad0 3y ago
I think clicking "Not interested" button is optional. You can just straight up block the content, and adblock any "You might also like". This is my bigoted view, but my interpretation of "you are the product" principle in freemium model is that they pay you in perceived value. Not the other way around, nor in cash. So, onus is on them to bring you values you recognize.
Vicinity9635 3y ago
This is just an ad hominem pretending to be civil discourse. The topic is XAI, and you're talking about Musk instead.
- kkielhofner 3y ago
  > This is just an ad hominem pretending to be civil discourse. The closest I got to an ad hominem was saying he seems to be impacted by a common problem that afflicts the extremely wealthy and powerful. It doesn't take much research to find celebrities, the ultra wealthy, etc talking about how easy, dangerous, and seductive it is to become surrounded by sycophants. I don't know of anything else to attribute his increasingly bizarre and erratic behavior to. Although some people have gone as far as to say he has "friend his brain with drugs", which I think absolutely is an ad hominem. In terms of XAI, my experience with the Twitter algorithm is clearly relevant as it's obviously an AI implementation at X. If you want something more direct, Elon Musk has said XAI is "based" and "loves sarcasm" while implying it was directly modeled after him and his own sense of humor. From[0] citing his direct announcement: '"It's also based & loves sarcasm," he wrote. "I have no idea who could have guided it this way."' Creating an LLM with a "sense of humor" ranges from "interesting choice" to absurd to dangerous. Humor is a matter of subjective and highly individualized tastes, and sarcasm can be (and is often) lost on people, which starts heading towards dangerous. "Based" is meaningless but also implies it has been influenced towards whatever he thinks that is, which I'm guessing is more alignment with him and his own opinions, etc. I have to imagine if Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, etc were to attempt something similar someone around them would tell them it's a bad idea (because it absolutely is). Announcing it, touting it as a positive, and being proud of it is next-level. The world does not need eccentric tech billionaire mini-me AIs and the fact he seems to have created one speaks to an ego run amok. [0] - https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/elon-musk-unveils-grok-a-spicy-and-based-ai-chatbot/464942 https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/elon-musk-unveils...

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 3y ago

Would you mind posting a screenshot of your phone screentime? Just curious

kkielhofner 3y ago
I overwhelmingly use X on desktop (browser) so I'm not sure how this would be helpful.

starik36 3y ago

Unfollow people that follow him and you won't get this content. My content used to be all over the place as well. After I've done the pruning, now it's various people talking about topics that I care about. Obviously it's not perfect - things leak through, but far better. Same with Facebook, my feed is now pretty much photos and news from friends and family.

extr 3y ago

It’s your algorithm. I mostly see content where he’s being dunked on or Tesla is the butt of a joke.

agloe_dreams 3y ago

This is easily explained but not in a positive way. X Subscribers get up-ranked in replies and For You. 99% of anyone who would subscribe to X are Elon Fans. As a result, you get the fanboys.

phh 3y ago

I was going to say that I never saw anything like that, but I remembered I followed Musk's advice the day he recommended it: I disabled recommendations and only use the "follows" view.

araes 3y ago
What? If that's Musk's own advice ... then how is that not the default? O_o "Our default sucks, use this workaround" "Except you bought the place"
- phh 3y ago
  https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-encourages-twitter-users-to-go-chronological https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-encourages-twitter-user...

misiti3780 3y ago

I dont have that experience at all, and im a tesla owner. I see more negative tesla stuff than positive, especially about stock value and cybertruck quality problems.

numpad0 3y ago

I think clicking "Not interested" button is optional. You can just straight up block the content, and adblock any "You might also like". This is my bigoted view, but my interpretation of "you are the product" principle in freemium model is that they pay you in perceived value. Not the other way around, nor in cash. So, onus is on them to bring you values you recognize.

Vicinity9635 3y ago

This is just an ad hominem pretending to be civil discourse. The topic is XAI, and you're talking about Musk instead.

kkielhofner 3y ago
> This is just an ad hominem pretending to be civil discourse. The closest I got to an ad hominem was saying he seems to be impacted by a common problem that afflicts the extremely wealthy and powerful. It doesn't take much research to find celebrities, the ultra wealthy, etc talking about how easy, dangerous, and seductive it is to become surrounded by sycophants. I don't know of anything else to attribute his increasingly bizarre and erratic behavior to. Although some people have gone as far as to say he has "friend his brain with drugs", which I think absolutely is an ad hominem. In terms of XAI, my experience with the Twitter algorithm is clearly relevant as it's obviously an AI implementation at X. If you want something more direct, Elon Musk has said XAI is "based" and "loves sarcasm" while implying it was directly modeled after him and his own sense of humor. From[0] citing his direct announcement: '"It's also based & loves sarcasm," he wrote. "I have no idea who could have guided it this way."' Creating an LLM with a "sense of humor" ranges from "interesting choice" to absurd to dangerous. Humor is a matter of subjective and highly individualized tastes, and sarcasm can be (and is often) lost on people, which starts heading towards dangerous. "Based" is meaningless but also implies it has been influenced towards whatever he thinks that is, which I'm guessing is more alignment with him and his own opinions, etc. I have to imagine if Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, etc were to attempt something similar someone around them would tell them it's a bad idea (because it absolutely is). Announcing it, touting it as a positive, and being proud of it is next-level. The world does not need eccentric tech billionaire mini-me AIs and the fact he seems to have created one speaks to an ego run amok. [0] - https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/elon-musk-unveils-grok-a-spicy-and-based-ai-chatbot/464942 https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/elon-musk-unveils...