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CNN decided to focus on smoking and inhaling, but the study they cite isn't focused on smoking or vaping. A quote from the paper: > Cannabis use was ascertaine

CNN decided to focus on smoking and inhaling, but the study they cite isn't focused on smoking or vaping. A quote from the paper: > Cannabis use was ascertained by asking about marijuana, hashish, pot, grass, and hash oil use either smoked or ingested.

potatopatch 3y ago
Cannabis users considered as a group is obviously going to include smokers, so without broken down analysis who can say if other use is harmful, neutral or protective?
- buffington 3y ago
  The 2020 study that CNN cites established cohorts that included marijuana users who also smoked tobacco, marijuana users who also consumed alcohol, marijuana users who smoked tobacco and consumed alcohol, and marijuana uses who didn't smoke tobacco or consume alcohol. There is broken down analysis in the study, and it suggests that consumers of marijuana, whether they were tobacco smokers or alcohol drinkers or not, have increased risk of heart disfunction. All that said, I'm not defending the study, nor am I disagreeing with your sentiment.
  - potatopatch 3y ago
    My point is really that CNN used the paper correctly for a point it could support. The point it may have been intended to make is flawed as particulate inhalation is a primary cause of heart problems so a separate cohort that (uses but) doesn't smoke marijuana would be necessary to understand the actual drugs in relation to heart health.
- buffington 3y ago
  I re-read your question and it occurs to me that by "smokers", you may actually mean "marijuana smokers". The study doesn't break that down. Which is a shame. There are people who do not smoke or vape marijuana, who instead ingest it (my 85 year old neighbor being one of those people). Do those people fare better than those that smoke or vape it? Asked more simply: is it the smoking and vaping that increases people's risk of heart problems, or is it the marijuana itself?

potatopatch 3y ago

Cannabis users considered as a group is obviously going to include smokers, so without broken down analysis who can say if other use is harmful, neutral or protective?

buffington 3y ago
The 2020 study that CNN cites established cohorts that included marijuana users who also smoked tobacco, marijuana users who also consumed alcohol, marijuana users who smoked tobacco and consumed alcohol, and marijuana uses who didn't smoke tobacco or consume alcohol. There is broken down analysis in the study, and it suggests that consumers of marijuana, whether they were tobacco smokers or alcohol drinkers or not, have increased risk of heart disfunction. All that said, I'm not defending the study, nor am I disagreeing with your sentiment.
- potatopatch 3y ago
  My point is really that CNN used the paper correctly for a point it could support. The point it may have been intended to make is flawed as particulate inhalation is a primary cause of heart problems so a separate cohort that (uses but) doesn't smoke marijuana would be necessary to understand the actual drugs in relation to heart health.
buffington 3y ago
I re-read your question and it occurs to me that by "smokers", you may actually mean "marijuana smokers". The study doesn't break that down. Which is a shame. There are people who do not smoke or vape marijuana, who instead ingest it (my 85 year old neighbor being one of those people). Do those people fare better than those that smoke or vape it? Asked more simply: is it the smoking and vaping that increases people's risk of heart problems, or is it the marijuana itself?