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Wonder how much of the pro-Elon nonsense I see here, on Twitter and Reddit is just stockholders who got rich off of Tesla. I like to think that there is some so

Wonder how much of the pro-Elon nonsense I see here, on Twitter and Reddit is just stockholders who got rich off of Tesla. I like to think that there is some sophisticated automated ML system Elon has got running to find and respond to haters....but then I saw that Youtube video discussing the poor code at Tesla so I dont know what to think anymore.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
It's pretty obvious what causes this for both companies. You have companies that were previously in a precarious position, which attracts interest from short sellers who think the company will fail, but instead the company makes money. Then all the people holding a short position get desperate to drive the stock price down so they can close their position without losing their shirts, so they keep attacking the company well past the point that there is no reasonable expectation they're going to go bankrupt anymore. That makes the company's supporters intolerant of criticism because they've been conditioned to expect criticism to be in bad faith. Which continues even after the short sellers have given up or been eviscerated by margin calls.
- nebula8804 3y ago
  You make a good point. I was a lurker on the "RealTesla" and "Teslamotors" subreddits during the whole 2016-2020 saga. So many nutjobs on both sides of the aisle. And more importantly, both sides were very wrong on some things and very right on other things. That was the take away I got from that era.
edgyquant 3y ago
I wonder how much of the anti-Elon posts I see here, on Twitter and Reddit are just NPCs who have been told to hate a person and regurgitate talking points designed in a lab. I’m pretty sure the answer is 80-90%. I’m also not an Elon fanboy nor have I ever owned Tesla. It just really woke me up seeing the entire internet flip against Elon so quickly and it having been so obviously inorganic.
- nebula8804 3y ago
  If you are looking for Anti-Elon content you'll find it. Others have seen the car teardowns and know that somehow his companies manage to produce excellent engineering(at least in some departments). Its possible to both hate him and like him at the same time(for different reasons).

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

It's pretty obvious what causes this for both companies. You have companies that were previously in a precarious position, which attracts interest from short sellers who think the company will fail, but instead the company makes money. Then all the people holding a short position get desperate to drive the stock price down so they can close their position without losing their shirts, so they keep attacking the company well past the point that there is no reasonable expectation they're going to go bankrupt anymore. That makes the company's supporters intolerant of criticism because they've been conditioned to expect criticism to be in bad faith. Which continues even after the short sellers have given up or been eviscerated by margin calls.

nebula8804 3y ago
You make a good point. I was a lurker on the "RealTesla" and "Teslamotors" subreddits during the whole 2016-2020 saga. So many nutjobs on both sides of the aisle. And more importantly, both sides were very wrong on some things and very right on other things. That was the take away I got from that era.

edgyquant 3y ago

I wonder how much of the anti-Elon posts I see here, on Twitter and Reddit are just NPCs who have been told to hate a person and regurgitate talking points designed in a lab. I’m pretty sure the answer is 80-90%. I’m also not an Elon fanboy nor have I ever owned Tesla. It just really woke me up seeing the entire internet flip against Elon so quickly and it having been so obviously inorganic.

nebula8804 3y ago
If you are looking for Anti-Elon content you'll find it. Others have seen the car teardowns and know that somehow his companies manage to produce excellent engineering(at least in some departments). Its possible to both hate him and like him at the same time(for different reasons).