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Are these not literally a laundry list of conservative talking points? And, by the way, you can be conservative without being MAGA. Love — “Monogamy is so ou

by vore 3y ago

Are these not literally a laundry list of conservative talking points? And, by the way, you can be conservative without being MAGA. Love — “Monogamy is so outdated.” Community — “I have enough friends online.” Country — “I’m embarrassed to be an American.” Work — “I’m quiet-quitting.” Family — “I’m not bringing kids into this melting world.” Faith — “My parents are such naive Bible thumpers. By the way, what’s your star sign?”

mcpackieh 3y ago
Quiet-quitting is a conservative value? I thought the conservative value was that hard work and having dedication to your employer is the way to get ahead in life. That's what conservatives have always told me. And you certainly don't have to be a conservative to become dissatisfied with internet dating. It genuinely sucks for a lot of people who just want to find somebody who understands them. Getting your dick sucked is great but wanting something more than that doesn't intrinsically make you a conservative. I think you're just seeing what you want to see. These are the kind of things anybody with liberal or progressive political opinions can find themselves feeling.
- vore 3y ago
  Did you read this backwards? These are examples given in the article of society’s alleged ills. Having the entire grab bag of them listed like this is undeniably conservative.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    It's a list of things young people are dissatisfied with. They're dissatisfied with work and don't believe they can get ahead by working harder. They're dissatisfy with app dating and don't believe they can find lasting happiness with it. These are not conservative concerns; they're anybody concerns. > Having [an] entire grab bag of [concerns] listed like this is undeniably conservative. Ridiculous. Anybody who has multiple concerns in their life will have a list of concerns. Articulating this isn't a conservative trait, it's just basic self reflection. If you don't have a list of concerns with your own life then you're obviously doing very well. But just because you can't relate to people who's lives aren't as great as yours doesn't mean those people are conservative. (You see I swapped out "the" with "an". Because that list is not The entire grab bag of characteristically conservative concerns. There's no mention of immigration, guns, abortion, voter IDs, crime rates, fear of carbon taxes and corporate regulations, drag-queen story hours, critical theory and progressive school teaches or really anything like any of that. It's clearly not "The" list of conservative concerns. You're characterizing it that way because that's what you want to see for some reason. Maybe you tripped over the mention of religion, but if you put stereotypes aside and look at public opinion polling, you will find that religion in America is largely bipartisan. Even the denominations that lean strongly one way still have millions of adherents who lean the other, e.g. 28% of evangelical protestants who lean Democrat. 55% of American Democrats report that their belief in God is absolutely certain and an additional 21% say their belief is fairly certain.)
    - vore 3y ago
      I think you're just seeing what you want to see.
      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        I am certain the list of concerns in the article is not the entire grab bag of conservative concerns as you claimed. It's not even most of the bag, most of the things in that list don't even have a conservative tint. If I'm wrong, then point me to the worries about abortion or gun control in the article. If you can't do that, then what's your basis for saying this is the entire grab bag? I don't think you can give me a substantive response to this, but give it a shot. You could at least try.
    - NoGravitas 3y ago
      No, it's a list of things this young person is dissatisfied with about what their peers believe. And most of them are stereotypically conservative concerns.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    > talking about society's ills is conservative

by vore 3y ago

mcpackieh 3y ago

Quiet-quitting is a conservative value? I thought the conservative value was that hard work and having dedication to your employer is the way to get ahead in life. That's what conservatives have always told me. And you certainly don't have to be a conservative to become dissatisfied with internet dating. It genuinely sucks for a lot of people who just want to find somebody who understands them. Getting your dick sucked is great but wanting something more than that doesn't intrinsically make you a conservative. I think you're just seeing what you want to see. These are the kind of things anybody with liberal or progressive political opinions can find themselves feeling.

vore 3y ago
Did you read this backwards? These are examples given in the article of society’s alleged ills. Having the entire grab bag of them listed like this is undeniably conservative.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  It's a list of things young people are dissatisfied with. They're dissatisfied with work and don't believe they can get ahead by working harder. They're dissatisfy with app dating and don't believe they can find lasting happiness with it. These are not conservative concerns; they're anybody concerns. > Having [an] entire grab bag of [concerns] listed like this is undeniably conservative. Ridiculous. Anybody who has multiple concerns in their life will have a list of concerns. Articulating this isn't a conservative trait, it's just basic self reflection. If you don't have a list of concerns with your own life then you're obviously doing very well. But just because you can't relate to people who's lives aren't as great as yours doesn't mean those people are conservative. (You see I swapped out "the" with "an". Because that list is not The entire grab bag of characteristically conservative concerns. There's no mention of immigration, guns, abortion, voter IDs, crime rates, fear of carbon taxes and corporate regulations, drag-queen story hours, critical theory and progressive school teaches or really anything like any of that. It's clearly not "The" list of conservative concerns. You're characterizing it that way because that's what you want to see for some reason. Maybe you tripped over the mention of religion, but if you put stereotypes aside and look at public opinion polling, you will find that religion in America is largely bipartisan. Even the denominations that lean strongly one way still have millions of adherents who lean the other, e.g. 28% of evangelical protestants who lean Democrat. 55% of American Democrats report that their belief in God is absolutely certain and an additional 21% say their belief is fairly certain.)
  - vore 3y ago
    I think you're just seeing what you want to see.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      I am certain the list of concerns in the article is not the entire grab bag of conservative concerns as you claimed. It's not even most of the bag, most of the things in that list don't even have a conservative tint. If I'm wrong, then point me to the worries about abortion or gun control in the article. If you can't do that, then what's your basis for saying this is the entire grab bag? I don't think you can give me a substantive response to this, but give it a shot. You could at least try.
  - NoGravitas 3y ago
    No, it's a list of things this young person is dissatisfied with about what their peers believe. And most of them are stereotypically conservative concerns.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  > talking about society's ills is conservative