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> there isn't anywhere to go because car dependent infrastructure has killed all the places that young people used to hang out. I think it's way more than car
by KittenInABox 3y ago
> there isn't anywhere to go because car dependent infrastructure has killed all the places that young people used to hang out.
I think it's way more than car dependent infrastructure. It's also the pressures of monetizing everything including social spaces. The only place I know in my town where you will be unharassed for hanging out in the open free of charge for hours out of the weather is the library. The mall will encourage you and your group to leave with security. The coffee shops and lounges require purchases of drink. Even my local makerspace requires at least one purchase to hang out in their scheduled "free" hangout meetups.
- gen220 3y agoI think if we fixed the housing crisis and wage suppression, requiring nominal purchases wouldn't be such a significant barrier. Nominal fees are like congestion pricing. If you don't have them, the space loses its ability to fulfill its original purpose.
- KittenInABox 3y agoI strongly disagree with this for children & community buildings. Children shouldn't be subject to congestion pricing. Teenagers should be free to rove a mall and be harmlessly loud and messy without being pressured to buy something-- chances are they will buy something eventually but it shouldn't be a requirement just to participate in community. I also wish my local makerspace didn't require a purchase. They should be funded by a government grant or wealthy donor such that impoverished people can learn skills and find community as equally as those with the spending money to chuck 5$ on a doodaad they'll never use.