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I've been using a similar shortcut like this for a while on iOS for bedtime reading. I hadn't seen the "reduce whitepoint" option before, but by setting the sho

I've been using a similar shortcut like this for a while on iOS for bedtime reading. I hadn't seen the "reduce whitepoint" option before, but by setting the shortcut to "zoom" you can get a similar (possibly slightly dimmer?) effect. The trick is to make it so the zoom shortcut dims the unzoomed area, and then set the unzoomed area to the entire screen. I just checked, and the effects of those two settings stack to make things quite dark.

DitheringIdiot 3y ago
That's interesting, I'll look into it. Using the method outlined in the article I can get it to the point of being almost not being able to see the screen. Though at night once your eyes adjust, I think going even dimmer could be useful.
- rimunroe 3y ago
  One downside of either the zoom trick or the reduce whitepoint option is that you won't see the screen dim before the screen locks from inactivity. This occasionally trips me up if I'm having trouble reading a page quickly. I usually work around this by just touching the screen occasionally or increasing the inactivity limit temporarily.
kylebenzle 3y ago
The nonsense Apple users go to for the simplest of features is always mind blowing to me. If they were paying 1/2 the price I'd get it but Apple products just make no sense to me.
- FredPret 3y ago
  Apple device defaults cover 999/1000 use cases absolutely perfectly - for me and apparently most people. It's no problem creating a weird workaround for the other 1/1000 items.
  - fomine3 3y ago
    1/50 for me, though I think the ratio isn't bad
- HumblyTossed 3y ago
  Right. Because Android has it's ultra low brightness setting where? Oh look! It, too, is in Accessibility settings. Just stop
  - domino24 3y ago
    We actually have a slider bar in the quick menu drop down. Also Night Light which removes blue light (also in the drop down). These can also be programmed to go on/off at set times (bedtime mode). Meanwhile, my husband as never been able to locate any of these in an iPhone without the help of this thread.
    - KennyBlanken 3y ago
      > We actually have a slider bar in the quick menu drop down. You mean like iPhone's Control Center, which is a pull up? There's a large, very clear screen brightness widget... > Meanwhile, my husband as never been able to locate any of these in an iPhone without the help of this thread. Aside from the fact that I believe night shift is on by default: You long press the screen brightness slider (long presses are a common UI function...) and boom, there's two buttons for dark mode and night shift, and below night shift it says "off until (time here") Or you can type in "night" into the system-wide search and "night shift" pops up as an option? Or you can google "night mode iphone"? Your husband being completely helpless isn't the fault of iOS.
- KennyBlanken 3y ago
  You don't need to go to "nonsense." Night mode is built-in to iOS, no software required - and it's Android that is imitating iOS with the accessibility menu, not the other way around. iOS is famous for its accessibility features. Since the early days of MacOS, Apple has always included accessibility features in its software. For years I've had "make the screen red" as a shortcut to three home button rapid presses. > Apple products just make no sense to me. I'm using an iPhone that cost me $300 used when I bought it several years ago, is now six years old, was until a month or so fully supported OS-wise and will continue to get security updates for another year or two, and is plenty fast enough for everything I do. Airdrop is incredibly handy, almost daily, and has no equivalent on the Android side. It backs up automatically to my mac any time it's on wifi and has power, also no equivalent on Android. I have a ton of the data collection turned off in the privacy tab. Half my apps don't know my real email address because I use Apple's email proxy service. iOS integrates nicely with my open-source self-hosted file sync and my open-source password database. The apps on my device collect a lot less data about me, and my device is not incessantly reporting everything it can to Google. The battery is original and has 75% of its capacity, and battery life is generally excellent. Not a single component in the phone has needed replacement / worn out. The screen is great. The speakers are great. Reception is great. Facetime audio calls are really pleasant with a couple of friends compared to regular phone calls. It never crashes. The Lightning jack still works perfectly, for example - and I don't bother with wireless charging most of the time. I get that it's nice to prop up one's ego thinking that you're *so much smarter than millions of people who are willing to pay a premium for something, or you can accept that there's a reason people make a choice other than what you do, that they might be different reasons, different priorities, etc.
  - orloffm 3y ago
    I've been like you, but now I can't use the modern OLED iPhones because of the PWM flicker.
- rimunroe 3y ago
  As someone else already pointed out, this is in addition to the normal brightness control. This is also notably the only settings hack I’ve ever needed since switching to iPhones from Androids about eight years ago, and in the course of replying to this thread I discovered that the hack isn’t even needed anymore since the reduce white point setting has a slider. I was shocked after the switch about how little tweaking I needed to do to have a device I actually enjoyed using.
jihadjihad 3y ago
Been doing this for several years now and it works great (triple click the Home button to dim the screen), but I can't help but wonder if a standalone setting in iOS wouldn't be a better option.
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DitheringIdiot 3y ago

That's interesting, I'll look into it. Using the method outlined in the article I can get it to the point of being almost not being able to see the screen. Though at night once your eyes adjust, I think going even dimmer could be useful.

rimunroe 3y ago
One downside of either the zoom trick or the reduce whitepoint option is that you won't see the screen dim before the screen locks from inactivity. This occasionally trips me up if I'm having trouble reading a page quickly. I usually work around this by just touching the screen occasionally or increasing the inactivity limit temporarily.

kylebenzle 3y ago

The nonsense Apple users go to for the simplest of features is always mind blowing to me. If they were paying 1/2 the price I'd get it but Apple products just make no sense to me.

FredPret 3y ago
Apple device defaults cover 999/1000 use cases absolutely perfectly - for me and apparently most people. It's no problem creating a weird workaround for the other 1/1000 items.
- fomine3 3y ago
  1/50 for me, though I think the ratio isn't bad
HumblyTossed 3y ago
Right. Because Android has it's ultra low brightness setting where? Oh look! It, too, is in Accessibility settings. Just stop
- domino24 3y ago
  We actually have a slider bar in the quick menu drop down. Also Night Light which removes blue light (also in the drop down). These can also be programmed to go on/off at set times (bedtime mode). Meanwhile, my husband as never been able to locate any of these in an iPhone without the help of this thread.
  - KennyBlanken 3y ago
    > We actually have a slider bar in the quick menu drop down. You mean like iPhone's Control Center, which is a pull up? There's a large, very clear screen brightness widget... > Meanwhile, my husband as never been able to locate any of these in an iPhone without the help of this thread. Aside from the fact that I believe night shift is on by default: You long press the screen brightness slider (long presses are a common UI function...) and boom, there's two buttons for dark mode and night shift, and below night shift it says "off until (time here") Or you can type in "night" into the system-wide search and "night shift" pops up as an option? Or you can google "night mode iphone"? Your husband being completely helpless isn't the fault of iOS.
KennyBlanken 3y ago
You don't need to go to "nonsense." Night mode is built-in to iOS, no software required - and it's Android that is imitating iOS with the accessibility menu, not the other way around. iOS is famous for its accessibility features. Since the early days of MacOS, Apple has always included accessibility features in its software. For years I've had "make the screen red" as a shortcut to three home button rapid presses. > Apple products just make no sense to me. I'm using an iPhone that cost me $300 used when I bought it several years ago, is now six years old, was until a month or so fully supported OS-wise and will continue to get security updates for another year or two, and is plenty fast enough for everything I do. Airdrop is incredibly handy, almost daily, and has no equivalent on the Android side. It backs up automatically to my mac any time it's on wifi and has power, also no equivalent on Android. I have a ton of the data collection turned off in the privacy tab. Half my apps don't know my real email address because I use Apple's email proxy service. iOS integrates nicely with my open-source self-hosted file sync and my open-source password database. The apps on my device collect a lot less data about me, and my device is not incessantly reporting everything it can to Google. The battery is original and has 75% of its capacity, and battery life is generally excellent. Not a single component in the phone has needed replacement / worn out. The screen is great. The speakers are great. Reception is great. Facetime audio calls are really pleasant with a couple of friends compared to regular phone calls. It never crashes. The Lightning jack still works perfectly, for example - and I don't bother with wireless charging most of the time. I get that it's nice to prop up one's ego thinking that you're *so much smarter than millions of people who are willing to pay a premium for something, or you can accept that there's a reason people make a choice other than what you do, that they might be different reasons, different priorities, etc.
- orloffm 3y ago
  I've been like you, but now I can't use the modern OLED iPhones because of the PWM flicker.
rimunroe 3y ago
As someone else already pointed out, this is in addition to the normal brightness control. This is also notably the only settings hack I’ve ever needed since switching to iPhones from Androids about eight years ago, and in the course of replying to this thread I discovered that the hack isn’t even needed anymore since the reduce white point setting has a slider. I was shocked after the switch about how little tweaking I needed to do to have a device I actually enjoyed using.

jihadjihad 3y ago

Been doing this for several years now and it works great (triple click the Home button to dim the screen), but I can't help but wonder if a standalone setting in iOS wouldn't be a better option.

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