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In Advaita vedanta there are 4 states of existence of self. First is the outer world where there is a concept ok others and physical world. This is the world i
by rhuru 3y ago
In Advaita vedanta there are 4 states of existence of self.
First is the outer world where there is a concept ok others and physical world. This is the world is beyond our control. There is suffering in this world.
Next is the dream state where we can control everything. This is illuminated by our own mind. Even then there is limits of what we can do. Continuous lucid dreaming gives us fatigue for those experiences.
Third is dreamless state where there is nothing but pure consciousness. This is one of the best states as there is only self and nothing else. You can experience this during general anesthesia etc.
Fourth which Advaita vedanta calls the ultimate realization is where you realize that you are the self and there is only self. That the pure consciousness is singular and same for all. In fact there is no all. There is just consciousness.
I think we are approaching the same line of thinking but via biology.
- david-gpu 3y ago> This is one of the best states as there is only self and nothing else. You can experience this during general anesthesia etc. I suspect, but don't know for sure, that most people remain (barely) conscious during dreamless sleep, or at least parts of it. However, we don't remember it as sleep. When we are awaken in the middle of dreamless sleep we simply believe we were lost in our internal monologue. This is most apparent when somebody is taking a nap, possibly even snoring, and when awakened they believe they were not sleeping at all. Now, in most people, this dreamless sleep isn't a quiet, sharp, blissful experience, but rather a blurry incoherent mess of internal monologue. If you practice falling asleep consciously, you will find your internal monologue progressively become more and more incoherent and disjointed, until a point when (REM) dreams manifest "out of thin air". This is easiest done as you approach your usual waking time, what in lucid dreaming circles is called WILD. That is my personal experience, anyway. I also believe that experienced meditators go through dreamless sleep with far less chatter and are able to maintain a sharp vivid blissful experience through the night.