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I’ll happily go out on a limb and say that people who believe they have acquired inerrant powers of scrying because somebody let them work the door somewhere ar

I’ll happily go out on a limb and say that people who believe they have acquired inerrant powers of scrying because somebody let them work the door somewhere are arrogant at best. It’s really a great example of the narcissistic desire for power and control that drives the behavior of a lot of people in the scene.

explaininjs 3y ago
Yes, bouncers can go on absurd power trips for no reason and get a kick out of flexing on the peons. And yes, it is possible to quickly assess someones P(an issue) after a career of observing tens of thousands of people and whether or not they were an issue. These things can both be true. [And keep in mind a false-positive matters not-one-bit-at-all, whereas a false-negative is (quite literally) an issue.]
- projectazorian 3y ago
  But the bouncers at Berghain aren't just there to keep troublemakers at bay like the bouncers at your local venue or, you know, almost any other club in Berlin. We're supposed to believe they're engaged in some sort of vibe curation process to attain the perfect crowd for the night. There's this weird purity aspect to it that is more than a little problematic.
  - explaininjs 3y ago
    Given the endless endorsements in this very thread that club has the exact “vibe” they want, it seems the bouncers are doing a damn good job at their job. It is the fool that tells the industry-proven expert that they know better.
    - projectazorian 3y ago
      Lots of people have been primed with the notion that Berghain is some sort of peak experience, so if they make it past the door when they visit Berlin, they're probably going to view the experience with rose-colored glasses. It's amazing brand strategy but that doesn't mean it actually is the best thing going, of course. I trust the Berliners I know (and those who have posted here with similar opinions) who don't view it quite so favorably. From them I hear it's a very good club but usually not worth the hassle of the lines and the arbitrary door policy. This rings true with my own experience as someone who has been to Berghain multiple times over the years - I've never had a bad time, but it's gone downhill, and other Berlin clubs offer equivalent or better experiences without the annoying exclusivity.

explaininjs 3y ago

Yes, bouncers can go on absurd power trips for no reason and get a kick out of flexing on the peons. And yes, it is possible to quickly assess someones P(an issue) after a career of observing tens of thousands of people and whether or not they were an issue. These things can both be true. [And keep in mind a false-positive matters not-one-bit-at-all, whereas a false-negative is (quite literally) an issue.]

projectazorian 3y ago
But the bouncers at Berghain aren't just there to keep troublemakers at bay like the bouncers at your local venue or, you know, almost any other club in Berlin. We're supposed to believe they're engaged in some sort of vibe curation process to attain the perfect crowd for the night. There's this weird purity aspect to it that is more than a little problematic.
- explaininjs 3y ago
  Given the endless endorsements in this very thread that club has the exact “vibe” they want, it seems the bouncers are doing a damn good job at their job. It is the fool that tells the industry-proven expert that they know better.
  - projectazorian 3y ago
    Lots of people have been primed with the notion that Berghain is some sort of peak experience, so if they make it past the door when they visit Berlin, they're probably going to view the experience with rose-colored glasses. It's amazing brand strategy but that doesn't mean it actually is the best thing going, of course. I trust the Berliners I know (and those who have posted here with similar opinions) who don't view it quite so favorably. From them I hear it's a very good club but usually not worth the hassle of the lines and the arbitrary door policy. This rings true with my own experience as someone who has been to Berghain multiple times over the years - I've never had a bad time, but it's gone downhill, and other Berlin clubs offer equivalent or better experiences without the annoying exclusivity.