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> January 2021 posts on Verified show that Fearlless and his partner Universalo purchased the SWAT reshipping business from a Verified member named SWAT, who’d

> January 2021 posts on Verified show that Fearlless and his partner Universalo purchased the SWAT reshipping business from a Verified member named SWAT, who’d been operating the service for years. > SWAT agreed to transfer the business in exchange for 30 percent of the net profit over the ensuing six months. Good to know M&A deals happen in the illegal industries too :) In the legal world, if someone reneges on the terms of their deal, you take them to court. I wonder how that gets settled in the illegal world...You send a hoodlum to beat them up?

stronglikedan 3y ago
Escrow is probably the names and addresses of close family members.
teddyh 3y ago
“Hundreds of guys depended on Paulie, and he got a piece of everything they made. It was tribute, just like in the old country, except they were doing it here in America. Now all they got from Paulie was protection from other guys looking to rip them off. And that’s what it’s all about. That’s what the FBI could never understand. That what Paulie and the Organization does, is offer protection for people who can’t go to the cops. That’s it. That’s all it is, they’re like the police department for wiseguys.” — Goodfellas (1990)
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Damn, now I'm in the mood for making garlic slices so thin they instantly melt in the pan.
  - sseagull 3y ago
    In the short-lived Strike Force Five podcast (five late-night talk show hosts during the writer's strike), one of them talks about this. They mentioned how they tried and tried but couldn't get the garlic to actually do that. When they got a chance to interview Scorsese about it, his response was "I made it up" :)
babypuncher 3y ago
if movies are to be believed, a guy named vinnie shows up to talk about breaking your legs. then maybe he breaks your legs.
ensignavenger 3y ago
> You send a hoodlum to beat them up? That, or some form of it, has traditionally been the method. Its only slightly different from the "legal" world, where you take them to court, and the court sends some one (the police) to enforce the courts decisions. Just in that case you have an (hopefully independent) third party to go through. Some more sophisticated criminal organizations actually have similar arbitration processes.
naet 3y ago
Depending on who you're dealing with, being sued could be vastly preferable to being on the bad side of certain illegal entities. They might do anything from threaten you, blackmail, cyber sabotage, or worse, all the way up to literal murder. If I was a scammer, I'd probably focus on regular people over illegal entities, as the regular people probably have much more limited options for recourse. Illegal businesses also probably have some decent experience in using escrow or other methods (above) of making sure illicit contracts are properly filled. In other cases though they might just accept a loss as a form of shrinkage, like if an individual drop shipper didn't end up reshipping packages purchased with stolen credit cards. If you're doing your crime entirely online it might be easier to just let certain things go than to try and chase down the offender.

stronglikedan 3y ago

Escrow is probably the names and addresses of close family members.

teddyh 3y ago

“Hundreds of guys depended on Paulie, and he got a piece of everything they made. It was tribute, just like in the old country, except they were doing it here in America. Now all they got from Paulie was protection from other guys looking to rip them off. And that’s what it’s all about. That’s what the FBI could never understand. That what Paulie and the Organization does, is offer protection for people who can’t go to the cops. That’s it. That’s all it is, they’re like the police department for wiseguys.” — Goodfellas (1990)

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Damn, now I'm in the mood for making garlic slices so thin they instantly melt in the pan.
- sseagull 3y ago
  In the short-lived Strike Force Five podcast (five late-night talk show hosts during the writer's strike), one of them talks about this. They mentioned how they tried and tried but couldn't get the garlic to actually do that. When they got a chance to interview Scorsese about it, his response was "I made it up" :)

babypuncher 3y ago

if movies are to be believed, a guy named vinnie shows up to talk about breaking your legs. then maybe he breaks your legs.

ensignavenger 3y ago

> You send a hoodlum to beat them up? That, or some form of it, has traditionally been the method. Its only slightly different from the "legal" world, where you take them to court, and the court sends some one (the police) to enforce the courts decisions. Just in that case you have an (hopefully independent) third party to go through. Some more sophisticated criminal organizations actually have similar arbitration processes.

naet 3y ago

Depending on who you're dealing with, being sued could be vastly preferable to being on the bad side of certain illegal entities. They might do anything from threaten you, blackmail, cyber sabotage, or worse, all the way up to literal murder. If I was a scammer, I'd probably focus on regular people over illegal entities, as the regular people probably have much more limited options for recourse. Illegal businesses also probably have some decent experience in using escrow or other methods (above) of making sure illicit contracts are properly filled. In other cases though they might just accept a loss as a form of shrinkage, like if an individual drop shipper didn't end up reshipping packages purchased with stolen credit cards. If you're doing your crime entirely online it might be easier to just let certain things go than to try and chase down the offender.