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China is better off pursue peace and forgoing their Communist zealots
by art_vandalay 3y ago
China is better off pursue peace and forgoing their Communist zealots
- FFP999 3y agoChina may nominally be a Communist country, but in practice, they've been more an authoritarian capitalist state for a generation or two now.
- Justin_K 3y agoAre there examples where communism did not turn into authoritarian?
- FFP999 3y agoIs that pertinent to whether or not China is currently communist in anything but name only? No.
- Justin_K 3y agoI'm genuinely curious because all we hear about are the bad examples
- guidoism 3y agoI’ve been wondering the same but maybe we only have these examples because the only successful attempts to forcefully take power away from the capitalists has been by authoritarians.
- snowpid 3y agoor maaaybe communism is just not working.
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- wkat4242 3y agoCuba isn't doing too badly even though it's authoritarian. It's no soviet union, DDR or North Korea. The biggest problems they have are due to US sanctions. But I think extremes never work. Neither strict communism nor all-out capitalism.
- Clubber 3y agoThe state owns most if not all industry. The only thing that individuals can invest in is property. How is that capitalism?
- somedude895 3y agoState capitalism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
- Clubber 3y agoCan you differentiate state capitalism from Communism? Sounds like a No True Scotsman argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
- colpabar 3y agoIt's pretty simple - communism is "real communism" when it works, and it's not when it doesn't. It's similar to how it's not "real capitalism" when things go wrong in a capitalist system.