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When you don't have governance beyond "self-governance", you get gang warfare. Gang warfare conditons are worse because in addition to having to secure basic t
by tenebrisalietum 3y ago
When you don't have governance beyond "self-governance", you get gang warfare.
Gang warfare conditons are worse because in addition to having to secure basic things like food, water, shelter, and comfortable surroundings, you also have to be constantly defending yourself, and you still don't escape the competitive landscape of humanity. You only make it less pleasant. Large groups consisting of numerous fighting gangs tend to get exploited for resource-extraction by larger groups with less infighting, because they need weapons constantly.
> How big does a gang have to be to gain rights than an individual does not have?
Not big IMHO. Does a family have a right to excommunicate a family member that they determine simply will not do anything but destroy them?
- verisimi 3y ago> When you don't have governance beyond "self-governance", you get gang warfare. Yes... Really big bang warfare - aka war - is what governments do. Do you not think the gang mentality is the problem? As I'm saying?
- tenebrisalietum 3y agoI can't understand this comment.
- verisimi 3y agoIt seems you are worried about gang warfare, but not worried about really big gangs (governments, countries).
- tenebrisalietum 3y agoLarge organized groups of people that follow rules and laws that are publicly known are not gangs - you have all the information you need to successfully interact with them available. There is no arbitrariness. Where that is not true, then you are right. But going back to what you said: if you only consider self-governance the correct thing, then it can never be true for anything. Therefore you would never have large organized groups of people, which are necessary for things like the Internet you're using to read this right now.