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Unfortunately for China, they successfully pissed off every single neighbor in the pacific, making it exponentially harder for them to attack Taiwan since all t
by Workaccount2 3y ago
Unfortunately for China, they successfully pissed off every single neighbor in the pacific, making it exponentially harder for them to attack Taiwan since all those neighbors went to the US for protection.
The US basically has a barrier of military bases along the entire Chinese coast. The US also besties with Singapore, sharing a navel base there, where it could easily cut off China from middle eastern oil via The Straight of Malacca.
China should just take the L on Taiwan. In a war they wouldn't get any of the chip fabs or tech. Everything would be destroyed. It would be purely to fulfill their ego at an extreme cost.
- art_vandalay 3y agoChina is better off pursue peace and forgoing their Communist zealots
- FFP999 3y agoChina may nominally be a Communist country, but in practice, they've been more an authoritarian capitalist state for a generation or two now.
- Justin_K 3y agoAre there examples where communism did not turn into authoritarian?
- FFP999 3y agoIs that pertinent to whether or not China is currently communist in anything but name only? No.
- Justin_K 3y agoI'm genuinely curious because all we hear about are the bad examples
- guidoism 3y agoI’ve been wondering the same but maybe we only have these examples because the only successful attempts to forcefully take power away from the capitalists has been by authoritarians.
- snowpid 3y agoor maaaybe communism is just not working.
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- wkat4242 3y agoCuba isn't doing too badly even though it's authoritarian. It's no soviet union, DDR or North Korea. The biggest problems they have are due to US sanctions. But I think extremes never work. Neither strict communism nor all-out capitalism.
- Clubber 3y agoThe state owns most if not all industry. The only thing that individuals can invest in is property. How is that capitalism?
- somedude895 3y agoState capitalism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
- Clubber 3y agoCan you differentiate state capitalism from Communism? Sounds like a No True Scotsman argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
- colpabar 3y agoIt's pretty simple - communism is "real communism" when it works, and it's not when it doesn't. It's similar to how it's not "real capitalism" when things go wrong in a capitalist system.
- wahern 3y ago> making it exponentially harder for them to attack Taiwan I fail to see how the sentiments of Vietnam or the Philippines have any bearing on the capacity of China to capture Taiwan. Talk is cheap, and neither country has taken any substantive steps toward a deterrence capability, let alone an improved one. > The US basically has a barrier of military bases along the entire Chinese coast. This sounds like something a PRC defense pundit would claim as justification for China's belligerency in the South China Sea. The few US bases in the region are north of the South China Sea, in Japan and North Korea. Take a quick glance at a map. > The US also besties with Singapore, sharing a navel base there, where it could easily cut off China from middle eastern oil via The Straight of Malacca. Singapore also has close ties with China, including joint military training: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-says-will-conduct-joint-military-training-with-singapore-coming-weeks-2023-08-28/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-says-will-c... The "bases" the US has in Singapore are merely for logistics and training. India also has similar agreements for use of Singapore's naval bases, and India is not a defense ally of the U.S. Singapore has a few bases in the U.S., but they're likewise for training and nobody would claim they're a potential military staging ground. Singapore isn't a defense ally of the U.S., notwithstanding their defense ties. As a vulnerable city-state Singapore desires to be besties with everybody, especially those who can exert pressure on Malaysia and Indonesia.
- sandGorgon 3y ago>India is not a defense ally of the U.S. India is not a defense ally of any country. However, at this time, India is the only country that is in a state of active war with China.
- anon291 3y agoIndia has a pretty strict neutrality policy. But you can bet if China waged an expansionist war they would be on the same side as those fighting China.
- Workaccount2 3y agoChingi Naval Base is an American naval base shared with the Singapore Navy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changi_Naval_Base https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changi_Naval_Base Here is a map of US military bases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:American_bases_worldwide.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:American_bases_worldwide.... You can see the US has bases in South korea, Japan, Philipines, and Singapore. As well as outer laying bases in Guam and Northern Australia. China doesn't have any breathing room in the pacific. But when you shit all over your neighbors, that's what happens. They back North Korea. Have centuries long conflict with Japan. And ignore the Philippines South China Sea territory.
- wrigglingworm 3y ago>The US basically has a barrier of military bases along the entire Chinese coast Yes, that's right! It's called the "Island chain strategy".