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Such a casual blog post for what is essentially the announcement of the death of the matrix project.

nerdponx 3y ago
Is it the death? I definitely felt like something was wrong, given that the protocol seems to have lots of problems and Dendrite has been in 0.x beta since basically forever. But I don't know what this means practically for Matrix.
- bzmrgonz 3y ago
  Too many people riding their coat-tails and not paying royalties for the hard-work they did and continue to do. I think they should go the CE & paid versioning that other projects have chosen. Let people continue to experiment with CE and once they are in a corporation, "we" can steer our bosses to the paid version. Alternatively, they should move up the stack and offer a clean deployment/hosting option (remove the container ops with a ci/cd direct to their hosting company). The argument is, we have to host this somewhere, why should we give peter that which rightfully belongs to John? So if John Matrix get into the hosting business, problem solved.
  - lannisterstark 3y ago
    >not paying royalties It's an open source project. What royalties? >continue to do and are 100% allowed to. > I think they should go the CE & paid versioning that other projects have chosen. I don't think that'd be the best idea, it works for other projects because they're not essentially acting as defacto communication protocols.
freedomben 3y ago
This seems a little premature. It reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail where the "bring out your dead" cart[1] is coming and a guy tries to dump a body, and the body says "I'm not dead." It's definitely not a good look, but when taken in context this ironically might be the thing that saves the project from death.[2] [1]: https://youtu.be/Jdf5EXo6I68?si=CGv7j8J5H1XnW3i1&t=55 https://youtu.be/Jdf5EXo6I68?si=CGv7j8J5H1XnW3i1&t=55 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38162275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38162275
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Is it the death? I definitely felt like something was wrong, given that the protocol seems to have lots of problems and Dendrite has been in 0.x beta since basically forever. But I don't know what this means practically for Matrix.

bzmrgonz 3y ago
Too many people riding their coat-tails and not paying royalties for the hard-work they did and continue to do. I think they should go the CE & paid versioning that other projects have chosen. Let people continue to experiment with CE and once they are in a corporation, "we" can steer our bosses to the paid version. Alternatively, they should move up the stack and offer a clean deployment/hosting option (remove the container ops with a ci/cd direct to their hosting company). The argument is, we have to host this somewhere, why should we give peter that which rightfully belongs to John? So if John Matrix get into the hosting business, problem solved.
- lannisterstark 3y ago
  >not paying royalties It's an open source project. What royalties? >continue to do and are 100% allowed to. > I think they should go the CE & paid versioning that other projects have chosen. I don't think that'd be the best idea, it works for other projects because they're not essentially acting as defacto communication protocols.

freedomben 3y ago

This seems a little premature. It reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail where the "bring out your dead" cart[1] is coming and a guy tries to dump a body, and the body says "I'm not dead." It's definitely not a good look, but when taken in context this ironically might be the thing that saves the project from death.[2] [1]: https://youtu.be/Jdf5EXo6I68?si=CGv7j8J5H1XnW3i1&t=55 https://youtu.be/Jdf5EXo6I68?si=CGv7j8J5H1XnW3i1&t=55 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38162275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38162275

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