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I liked the JRE episode with Jimmy Corsetti. He thinks he found the traces of Atlantis in west Africa. It was an entertaining episode to listen to, not being a

I liked the JRE episode with Jimmy Corsetti. He thinks he found the traces of Atlantis in west Africa. It was an entertaining episode to listen to, not being a scholar, it's hard to know if he's right or not. Here's a clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_R1zoY9kWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_R1zoY9kWs

pestatije 3y ago
JRE - The Joe Rogan Experience
gherkinnn 3y ago
Jimmy has yet to utter a sensible word. At 10:45: Somebody who jumps from “A city that was busy all day, all night” to “it must be millions of people like New York” can only be described as daft. There is scholarly work on Atlantis. And this clown mentions none of it.
adolph 3y ago
Was it about the Eye of the Sahara? That is quite the interesting geological feature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure
jcranmer 3y ago
Not having listened to it, I'd guess he's referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure, a very large circular rock structure in Africa. And also one where the archaeological evidence shows nothing more than periodic visitation by nomadic peoples, nothing like the supposed state society Atlantis would have been.
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
  If you can't imagine a green Sahara, can you imagine a rich Civilization living there? The transition is hard to believe, yet has happened multiple times https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/climate-change/new-research-reveals-why-and-when-sahara-desert-was-green https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/climate-change/new-research-...
  - gherkinnn 3y ago
    A rich civilisation (possibly in the millions), leaving absolutely no trace in any shape or form? Maybe time to apply Occam's Razor. On the other hand, a green north Africa is well established. And it turns out that the Ancient Egyptians might have descended from hunter-gatherers who were driven towards the nile as the grasslands gave way to desert. For all of which there is archaeological evidence.
  - huytersd 3y ago
    It’s very easy to imagine a green Sahara. Where do you think all the oil in the Middle East came from.
  - jcranmer 3y ago
    I can imagine a green Sahara, as I could imagine a civilization. What I can't imagine is a civilization that exists without leaving any archaeological trace of itself.
    - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
      What about catastrophic tsunami induced by asteroid impact? That's one of the theories in the context of that structure as Atlantis. There are people who think some of the geologic features surrounding that place lead to that conclusion. Comparable to the things found in North-America, where there is no doubt at all that these are traces of catastrophic flooding at laaarge scale. Anyways, theory is that giant masses of water rushed from somewhere of what is now the southern or southwestern cost of the mediterran sea(Lybia, Algeria), downwards and westwards, until reaching the Atlantic. Not gently at all. What do you expect to find there, especially after so much time passed? The hardened pyramid defence bunkers of the Kinks of Koulou?
      - jcranmer 3y ago
        > What about catastrophic tsunami induced by asteroid impact? That's one of the theories in the context of that structure as Atlantis. There are people who think some of the geologic features surrounding that place lead to that conclusion. Comparable to the things found in North-America, where there is no doubt at all that these are traces of catastrophic flooding at laaarge scale. It's ~400m in altitude, approximately 500-600km inland, and not along a major watercourse like the Mississippi river that might funnel tsunamis inland. So... no, it's not plausible for this structure.
twic 3y ago
The Richat Structure is the fool's Atlantis. It's just a load of circles guys, that doesn't make it Atlantis. Atlantis was in Tunisia: https://medcraveonline.com/IJH/IJH-05-00275.pdf https://medcraveonline.com/IJH/IJH-05-00275.pdf

pestatije 3y ago

JRE - The Joe Rogan Experience

gherkinnn 3y ago

Jimmy has yet to utter a sensible word. At 10:45: Somebody who jumps from “A city that was busy all day, all night” to “it must be millions of people like New York” can only be described as daft. There is scholarly work on Atlantis. And this clown mentions none of it.

adolph 3y ago

Was it about the Eye of the Sahara? That is quite the interesting geological feature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure

jcranmer 3y ago

Not having listened to it, I'd guess he's referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure, a very large circular rock structure in Africa. And also one where the archaeological evidence shows nothing more than periodic visitation by nomadic peoples, nothing like the supposed state society Atlantis would have been.

WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
If you can't imagine a green Sahara, can you imagine a rich Civilization living there? The transition is hard to believe, yet has happened multiple times https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/climate-change/new-research-reveals-why-and-when-sahara-desert-was-green https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/climate-change/new-research-...
- gherkinnn 3y ago
  A rich civilisation (possibly in the millions), leaving absolutely no trace in any shape or form? Maybe time to apply Occam's Razor. On the other hand, a green north Africa is well established. And it turns out that the Ancient Egyptians might have descended from hunter-gatherers who were driven towards the nile as the grasslands gave way to desert. For all of which there is archaeological evidence.
- huytersd 3y ago
  It’s very easy to imagine a green Sahara. Where do you think all the oil in the Middle East came from.
- jcranmer 3y ago
  I can imagine a green Sahara, as I could imagine a civilization. What I can't imagine is a civilization that exists without leaving any archaeological trace of itself.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
    What about catastrophic tsunami induced by asteroid impact? That's one of the theories in the context of that structure as Atlantis. There are people who think some of the geologic features surrounding that place lead to that conclusion. Comparable to the things found in North-America, where there is no doubt at all that these are traces of catastrophic flooding at laaarge scale. Anyways, theory is that giant masses of water rushed from somewhere of what is now the southern or southwestern cost of the mediterran sea(Lybia, Algeria), downwards and westwards, until reaching the Atlantic. Not gently at all. What do you expect to find there, especially after so much time passed? The hardened pyramid defence bunkers of the Kinks of Koulou?
    - jcranmer 3y ago
      > What about catastrophic tsunami induced by asteroid impact? That's one of the theories in the context of that structure as Atlantis. There are people who think some of the geologic features surrounding that place lead to that conclusion. Comparable to the things found in North-America, where there is no doubt at all that these are traces of catastrophic flooding at laaarge scale. It's ~400m in altitude, approximately 500-600km inland, and not along a major watercourse like the Mississippi river that might funnel tsunamis inland. So... no, it's not plausible for this structure.

twic 3y ago

The Richat Structure is the fool's Atlantis. It's just a load of circles guys, that doesn't make it Atlantis. Atlantis was in Tunisia: https://medcraveonline.com/IJH/IJH-05-00275.pdf https://medcraveonline.com/IJH/IJH-05-00275.pdf