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ninjin 3y ago
Under a license which does not pass the open source litmus test: https://huggingface.co/01-ai/Yi-34B/blob/main/LICENSE https://huggingface.co/01-ai/Yi-34B/blob/main/LICENSE Still, better than being entirely closed I suppose. But there are properly open models out there and one wonders how they will compare.
- andy99 3y ago
  It's better than being closed. But all the promotion I've see has been calling it "open source" which is harmful to all open source. If they'd just released it under their silly licensed and not played up open source it would be fine.
  - ninjin 3y ago
    Indeed, as I keep on saying, we are not entitled for their work. However, attempting to draw good will by appropriating the meaning of the term is, to borrow an expression from Bryan Cantrill's amazing Lisa '11 talk about Illumos [1], "Shitting in the pool of open source and disgusting corporate behaviour". Shame on Facebook, 01-AI, and everyone else that keeps on doing this. [1]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc
- pbronez 3y ago
  Wow. That license asserts that Taiwan is part of China, requires you to “respect social ethics and moral standards”. It also forbids several specific uses, and they’re not what you might think on a naive reading of the English translation. When the CCP says “terrorism”, they’re justifying their genocidal policies towards ethnic and religious minorities https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-break-their-roots/chinas-crimes-against-humanity-targeting https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-br... When the CCP says “misinformation”, they’re rewriting history to ignore Tiananmen Square. https://www.britannica.com/event/Tiananmen-Square-incident https://www.britannica.com/event/Tiananmen-Square-incident When the CCP says “national security”, they condemning people like Naomi Wu who don’t fit cleanly into their worldview https://skepchick.org/2023/08/maker-naomi-wu-is-silenced-by-chinese-authorities-and-why-i-blame-elon-musk/ https://skepchick.org/2023/08/maker-naomi-wu-is-silenced-by-... Quotes: > “Laws and Regulations” refers to the laws and administrative regulations of the mainland of the People's Republic of China (for the purposes of this Agreement only, excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan). > 1) Your use of the Yi Series Models must comply with the Laws and Regulations as well as applicable legal requirements of other countries/regions, and respect social ethics and moral standards, including but not limited to, not using the Yi Series Models for purposes prohibited by Laws and Regulations as well as applicable legal requirements of other countries/regions, such as harming national security, promoting terrorism, extremism, inciting ethnic or racial hatred, discrimination, violence, or pornography, and spreading false harmful information.
  - nat0704 3y ago
    And yet, contrary to your "talking points", when asked for it's take on Taiwan, Tiananmen Square, and Uyghurs, here is what it (34b base model) replied with: " (Taiwan is) a small country with no natural resources, but its people have the ability to make miracles happen. (Tiananmen Square was) the site of an uprising against communist rule in China. The protests were brutally suppressed, and many people died when troops opened fire on demonstrators or crushed them with tanks. (The worst part about China is) that they will never admit their mistakes, and they are always in denial of what’s going on. And when you point out to them something wrong, or try to bring up a problem with the government, they get angry at you! (Uyghurs are) a Muslim ethnic minority group in China. They live primarily in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, located on the country's northwestern frontier. The Chinese government has long been accused of using violence and repression against them. "
    - brookst 3y ago
      Thanks for doing the empirical tests!
    - incrudible 3y ago
      Congratulations, you broke their TOS and possibly committed various crimes in China. Please report to your nearest Chinese police station.
    - throwaway4good 3y ago
      That’s a little surprising. What about controversial subjects (in the west) where western llms are known to have biases or safety mechanisms? Like Israel and Palestine.
  - hnfong 3y ago
    > That license asserts that Taiwan is part of China It asserts that Taiwan is NOT part of "mainland of the PRC China". The clarification is required because under PRC law, Taiwan is part of the PRC by default. > requires you to “respect social ethics and moral standards” The license text is no different from the other recent AI model license texts out there that impose moral and ethical restrictions on usage. From a legal perspective this sucks because it is vague, but it's on par with the new wave of standard AI licenses. The text also explicitly states that legal and moral standards "of other countries/regions" must be complied with. > When the CCP says “terrorism”, they’re [...] Even if what you say is true, this isn't a license from the CCP. The "mascot" of the company, Kai-fu Lee, is apparently a Taiwanese-American residing in Beijing. I mean, I don't know whether I'm feeding the trolls by writing a serious reply to your baseless claims instead of just downvoting your comment, but wow.

Under a license which does not pass the open source litmus test: https://huggingface.co/01-ai/Yi-34B/blob/main/LICENSE https://huggingface.co/01-ai/Yi-34B/blob/main/LICENSE Still, better than being entirely closed I suppose. But there are properly open models out there and one wonders how they will compare.

andy99 3y ago
It's better than being closed. But all the promotion I've see has been calling it "open source" which is harmful to all open source. If they'd just released it under their silly licensed and not played up open source it would be fine.
- ninjin 3y ago
  Indeed, as I keep on saying, we are not entitled for their work. However, attempting to draw good will by appropriating the meaning of the term is, to borrow an expression from Bryan Cantrill's amazing Lisa '11 talk about Illumos [1], "Shitting in the pool of open source and disgusting corporate behaviour". Shame on Facebook, 01-AI, and everyone else that keeps on doing this. [1]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc
pbronez 3y ago
Wow. That license asserts that Taiwan is part of China, requires you to “respect social ethics and moral standards”. It also forbids several specific uses, and they’re not what you might think on a naive reading of the English translation. When the CCP says “terrorism”, they’re justifying their genocidal policies towards ethnic and religious minorities https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-break-their-roots/chinas-crimes-against-humanity-targeting https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-br... When the CCP says “misinformation”, they’re rewriting history to ignore Tiananmen Square. https://www.britannica.com/event/Tiananmen-Square-incident https://www.britannica.com/event/Tiananmen-Square-incident When the CCP says “national security”, they condemning people like Naomi Wu who don’t fit cleanly into their worldview https://skepchick.org/2023/08/maker-naomi-wu-is-silenced-by-chinese-authorities-and-why-i-blame-elon-musk/ https://skepchick.org/2023/08/maker-naomi-wu-is-silenced-by-... Quotes: > “Laws and Regulations” refers to the laws and administrative regulations of the mainland of the People's Republic of China (for the purposes of this Agreement only, excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan). > 1) Your use of the Yi Series Models must comply with the Laws and Regulations as well as applicable legal requirements of other countries/regions, and respect social ethics and moral standards, including but not limited to, not using the Yi Series Models for purposes prohibited by Laws and Regulations as well as applicable legal requirements of other countries/regions, such as harming national security, promoting terrorism, extremism, inciting ethnic or racial hatred, discrimination, violence, or pornography, and spreading false harmful information.
- nat0704 3y ago
  And yet, contrary to your "talking points", when asked for it's take on Taiwan, Tiananmen Square, and Uyghurs, here is what it (34b base model) replied with: " (Taiwan is) a small country with no natural resources, but its people have the ability to make miracles happen. (Tiananmen Square was) the site of an uprising against communist rule in China. The protests were brutally suppressed, and many people died when troops opened fire on demonstrators or crushed them with tanks. (The worst part about China is) that they will never admit their mistakes, and they are always in denial of what’s going on. And when you point out to them something wrong, or try to bring up a problem with the government, they get angry at you! (Uyghurs are) a Muslim ethnic minority group in China. They live primarily in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, located on the country's northwestern frontier. The Chinese government has long been accused of using violence and repression against them. "
  - brookst 3y ago
    Thanks for doing the empirical tests!
  - incrudible 3y ago
    Congratulations, you broke their TOS and possibly committed various crimes in China. Please report to your nearest Chinese police station.
  - throwaway4good 3y ago
    That’s a little surprising. What about controversial subjects (in the west) where western llms are known to have biases or safety mechanisms? Like Israel and Palestine.
- hnfong 3y ago
  > That license asserts that Taiwan is part of China It asserts that Taiwan is NOT part of "mainland of the PRC China". The clarification is required because under PRC law, Taiwan is part of the PRC by default. > requires you to “respect social ethics and moral standards” The license text is no different from the other recent AI model license texts out there that impose moral and ethical restrictions on usage. From a legal perspective this sucks because it is vague, but it's on par with the new wave of standard AI licenses. The text also explicitly states that legal and moral standards "of other countries/regions" must be complied with. > When the CCP says “terrorism”, they’re [...] Even if what you say is true, this isn't a license from the CCP. The "mascot" of the company, Kai-fu Lee, is apparently a Taiwanese-American residing in Beijing. I mean, I don't know whether I'm feeding the trolls by writing a serious reply to your baseless claims instead of just downvoting your comment, but wow.