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The slander / reputation damage alone is the issue. It's an attack on their sense of self and community.

Teever 3y ago
It sucks, but it's the lesser of two evils scenario. A world where nudes of you are floating around and you can't make the claim that they're AI fakes is far worse than one where nudes of you are floating around and you can make that claim. Even the slimmest of plausible deniability is enough to save face in a lot of situations.
webninja 3y ago
Perhaps the solution is to not let nudes cause damage. As an example, look at how Amazon founder Jeff Bezos treated the situation when a nude was lifted off of his phone by a middle eastern hacker. His response was: “So what?”. We’re in the Age of AI so it’s okay to not be prude Victorian-aged puritans over naked bodies.
- mjevans 3y ago
  Were it that easy... The community is not that understanding. Groups of people go mean surprisingly easily. This is also one of the reasons victims of other crimes are further damaged beyond just the initial crime. They become classified / treated as a victim rather than empowered and supported in positive ways.
- 8note 3y ago
  Jeff b is up towards the richest person on earth. He's not a comparable rxample
- Canada 3y ago
  It's not the same for women and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. Nudes of a women do real damage to her. Her social standing is actually lowered as a result. She will even suffer again in the future if the material becomes known to a new social circle years later. Most men will be embarrassed of course, but will not suffer any social damage as a result. This is why "Slut-shaming" works. If women could just say, "so what?" then it wouldn't be practiced in the first place. Want to change that? Real tough. Maybe go for something easier like world peace. The existence of the AI fakes will probably change the equation in time though. Women will gain plausible deniability because any nude could be a fake.

It sucks, but it's the lesser of two evils scenario. A world where nudes of you are floating around and you can't make the claim that they're AI fakes is far worse than one where nudes of you are floating around and you can make that claim. Even the slimmest of plausible deniability is enough to save face in a lot of situations.

webninja 3y ago

Perhaps the solution is to not let nudes cause damage. As an example, look at how Amazon founder Jeff Bezos treated the situation when a nude was lifted off of his phone by a middle eastern hacker. His response was: “So what?”. We’re in the Age of AI so it’s okay to not be prude Victorian-aged puritans over naked bodies.

mjevans 3y ago
Were it that easy... The community is not that understanding. Groups of people go mean surprisingly easily. This is also one of the reasons victims of other crimes are further damaged beyond just the initial crime. They become classified / treated as a victim rather than empowered and supported in positive ways.
8note 3y ago
Jeff b is up towards the richest person on earth. He's not a comparable rxample
Canada 3y ago
It's not the same for women and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. Nudes of a women do real damage to her. Her social standing is actually lowered as a result. She will even suffer again in the future if the material becomes known to a new social circle years later. Most men will be embarrassed of course, but will not suffer any social damage as a result. This is why "Slut-shaming" works. If women could just say, "so what?" then it wouldn't be practiced in the first place. Want to change that? Real tough. Maybe go for something easier like world peace. The existence of the AI fakes will probably change the equation in time though. Women will gain plausible deniability because any nude could be a fake.