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How do you say "we need to house new immigrants"? How do you pronounce "department of housing and urban development"?

by whycome 3y ago

arcanemachiner 3y ago
Howz and howzing.
codetrotter 3y ago
We need to mouse new immigrants Department of mousing and urban development
- justinator 3y ago
  You're going to hate this, but the noun and verb form of mouse are pronounced the same, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/mouse_1 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng... https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/mouse_2 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng...
pests 3y ago
"Housing" esposes more of the howz sound. The first is just howce. Thinking about this more... I just realized something. I struggled with a lisp and speech therapy in grade school. I distinctly remember a lesson where I was being instructed on how certain words ending in "s" actually sound like "z" like "apples" and I was pronouncing it without the z. I am thinking this may just be related to that.
- whycome 3y ago
  I was just trying to illustrate it better. I think the majority will say "howz new immigrants." There are a few weird "same-spelling" words. You can refuse to throw refuse in the trash can. You can estimate how many estimates you might get. But I suspect that you're not a suspect in this case. But, if you get close, I'll close this thread.
  - pests 3y ago
    A large number of those are called heteronyms which include a noun and a verb, the noun getting the stress on the first syllable while the verb receives the stress on the second. But yes I agree.
- DonHopkins 3y ago
  Didn't the muppets do a skit about s? ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I9652HzGWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I9652HzGWE Or maybe it was the Electric Company's... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuI6WI6MJU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuI6WI6MJU Nothing beats Tom Lehrer's song about Silent E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BQqdNOUxs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BQqdNOUxs
- psunavy03 3y ago
  This thread is also getting into such detail that people's regional accents will start to come into play as to how they pronounce things. "Pin" vs "pen," etc.
  - pests 3y ago
    That's why I include my region whenever speaking about linguistics!
MiddleEndian 3y ago
The department of housing and urban development needs to make new houses to house new immigrants. The department of <howzing> and urban development needs to make new <howsses> to <howz> new immigrants.
- justinator 3y ago
  I'm not sure that's right, if the "z"-pronounciation is for verbs. I would think the Department of Housing is talking about "housing" as a noun, rather than "housing" in a verby-way. Like the "department of transportation". You can transport something, but you don't transportation something. Or "Department of Education" isn't educationing people, it's educating people. Bastard language this is.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > I'm not sure that's right, if the "z"-pronounciation is for verbs. It is right. The rule you are stating is an overgeneralization; it is correct for specifically distinguishing the verb forms “house” and “houses” from the singular and plural noun forms “house” and “houses”, but not really otherwise (maybe by derivation, in that “housing” is “that which houses”, but...)

How do you say "we need to house new immigrants"? How do you pronounce "department of housing and urban development"?

arcanemachiner 3y ago

Howz and howzing.

codetrotter 3y ago

We need to mouse new immigrants Department of mousing and urban development

justinator 3y ago
You're going to hate this, but the noun and verb form of mouse are pronounced the same, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/mouse_1 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng... https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/mouse_2 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng...

pests 3y ago

"Housing" esposes more of the howz sound. The first is just howce. Thinking about this more... I just realized something. I struggled with a lisp and speech therapy in grade school. I distinctly remember a lesson where I was being instructed on how certain words ending in "s" actually sound like "z" like "apples" and I was pronouncing it without the z. I am thinking this may just be related to that.

whycome 3y ago
I was just trying to illustrate it better. I think the majority will say "howz new immigrants." There are a few weird "same-spelling" words. You can refuse to throw refuse in the trash can. You can estimate how many estimates you might get. But I suspect that you're not a suspect in this case. But, if you get close, I'll close this thread.
- pests 3y ago
  A large number of those are called heteronyms which include a noun and a verb, the noun getting the stress on the first syllable while the verb receives the stress on the second. But yes I agree.
DonHopkins 3y ago
Didn't the muppets do a skit about s? ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I9652HzGWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I9652HzGWE Or maybe it was the Electric Company's... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuI6WI6MJU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuI6WI6MJU Nothing beats Tom Lehrer's song about Silent E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BQqdNOUxs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91BQqdNOUxs
psunavy03 3y ago
This thread is also getting into such detail that people's regional accents will start to come into play as to how they pronounce things. "Pin" vs "pen," etc.
- pests 3y ago
  That's why I include my region whenever speaking about linguistics!

MiddleEndian 3y ago

The department of housing and urban development needs to make new houses to house new immigrants. The department of <howzing> and urban development needs to make new <howsses> to <howz> new immigrants.

justinator 3y ago
I'm not sure that's right, if the "z"-pronounciation is for verbs. I would think the Department of Housing is talking about "housing" as a noun, rather than "housing" in a verby-way. Like the "department of transportation". You can transport something, but you don't transportation something. Or "Department of Education" isn't educationing people, it's educating people. Bastard language this is.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > I'm not sure that's right, if the "z"-pronounciation is for verbs. It is right. The rule you are stating is an overgeneralization; it is correct for specifically distinguishing the verb forms “house” and “houses” from the singular and plural noun forms “house” and “houses”, but not really otherwise (maybe by derivation, in that “housing” is “that which houses”, but...)