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The fact that someone with a political opinion had their account closed is not evidence that Chase is monitoring all their customers' political activity and sys
by panarky 3y ago
The fact that someone with a political opinion had their account closed is not evidence that Chase is monitoring all their customers' political activity and systematically closing accounts for political activity Chase doesn't like.
The same way that Chase closing a restaurant's account is not evidence that Chase is tasting the food in every restaurant and systematically closing accounts for restaurants that cook food that Chase doesn't like.
- raincom 3y agoGood that you trust Chase and other banks with the lame 'evidence' that they provide such as: "Financial institutions have an obligation to know our customers and monitor transactions that flow through our customers' accounts. After careful consideration, we decided to close your account because of unexpected activity on these or another Chase account." Based on that standard template, I won't trust big banks, because, hiding behind BSA, banks can use the blanket statement "because of unexpected activity". Now you ask me to trust Banks, because they can't show that evidence to me.
- jfengel 3y agoI don't trust Chase as far as I can throw them. But I still trust them more than Nigel Farage.
- panarky 3y agoNone of this is about whether I trust Chase or not. It's about the big claim that Chase monitors the political activity of their customers and systematically closes the accounts of people with opinions Chase doesn't like. There's precisely zero evidence that they do this. Even if one blindly accepts your citations from "The 700 Club" and some random post from "Nitter" as authoritative, even they provide zero evidence for that claim. Big claims require compelling evidence, and you haven't provided any.
- zlg_codes 3y agoSo if MSM doesn't report, it doesn't exist? State the requirements of 'compelling evidence'. You debate like that Chase email explains their reasoning.
- rfrey 3y ago"Compelling" evidence would be great, but SOME evidence would be nice too. The media not reporting it is certainly not evidence, down that path lies true crazy.
- pabs3 3y agoFWIW, Nitter is just an alternative frontend to Twitter/X.
- pauldenton 3y agoSo what alternative theory do you have for all those accounts being closed?
- bergen 3y agoRisk avoidance. Extremists (!) are more likely to have dubios donors. And even if they're "normal" political figures or activists, their behaviour in public might damage the bank. This being said this approach is a pretty wild one still, since people NEED banks, and there should be long duration till the expiration (except in cases of fraud, money laundering, ..)
- suoduandao3 3y agoTheir behavior in public, such as their social media activity? Sounds like there's no disagreement here.