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My final paragraph addresses that, but to expand: Devs have been worried about offshoring/immigrants replacing them/lowering their wages for decades. The only
by ketzo 3y ago
My final paragraph addresses that, but to expand:
Devs have been worried about offshoring/immigrants replacing them/lowering their wages for decades.
The only outcome we have ever observed from having more people building software is that dramatically more software jobs have become possible and in-demand.
Also, and I understand why you might not make this argument, but let’s be honest: software engineering wages are extraordinarily high. Slowing or even reversing that growth by small amounts on average would still leave millions of extremely well-paid jobs.
- srackey 3y agoExcept we have no control to compare to. Software is eating the world after all. Seems likely that demand would be high anyway. Perhaps if there were no H1Bs, entry level grads would make $250k, with the average senior dev making $750k+.
- ketzo 3y agoThat… seems objectively like a bad situation for the world. It would be way, way harder to make software if you had to pay people that much.
- mufti_menk 3y agoVery very scary to think about. We must import as many immigrants as possible to make sure it doesn't happen.
- dukeyukey 3y agoWhy are you talking about "importing" immigrants like they're a bulk commodity and not people with hopes and dreams? My brother is an immigrant to the US - nobody imported him (unless you count his American wife), he moved because he wanted to. Hell, I'd _love_ to move to US but the immigration system for skilled workers is beyond fucked.
- mistrial9 3y agountil you are 40 years old
- Ancapistani 3y agoI’m 40, and feel like I’m more in-demand than ever. YMMV, I guess.
- dukeyukey 3y agoI've worked with loads of 40+ developers, even a few 70+.
- mistrial9 3y agoyou are in the EU, wager?
- dukeyukey 3y agoNo, the UK. And the company with the oldest demographic was an American company based out of Seattle. The second oldest was another American company HQ'd in Portland.
- mistrial9 3y agoyou found a 100 year old turtle and then claim that everything with four legs outlives a human then, metaphorically?
- dukeyukey 3y agoI'm genuinely a bit confused here, you haven't worked with middle-aged and older developers? I don't think I've ever worked anywhere without someone at least in their 40s, including the startup I'm at now. Almost everyone in tech during the dot-com boom is at least middle aged now.