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I am also scared by the amount of comments here saying that it is objectively good to grow up without the best technological advancement of recent years - super

I am also scared by the amount of comments here saying that it is objectively good to grow up without the best technological advancement of recent years - supercomputer that fits in your pocket and you can lookup everything humanity has done in seconds. I understand the boomer sentiment of „phone bad”, but let’s be realistic. You can’t do banking, communication with friends and family, looking knowledge up without a phone. Some countries’ services also de facto require it (unless you want the process to take 3 months longer than it will using a phone). Best to educate the kid like parent comment said

appplication 3y ago
The flip side is children do not need to be exposed to tech at a young age in order to natively learn it. Many of us grew up with VCRs, limited computer access, no phones. And we have learned how to both use and directly build some of the most sophisticated digital technology in the world today. You could raise a kid in a cave for the first 10 years of their life before giving them their first glimpse of a screen and by age 13 they’ll be on the same level as every other kid regarding technological literacy. It’s totally a valid parenting strategy to be skeptical of the value of screens for children.
ajmurmann 3y ago
I can do all those things on my laptop which I've never picked up and then wondered why. (granted, I've opened browser tabs and then wondered why I just did that)
Dah00n 3y ago
You cannot educate a kid out of harms way from algorithms on Social Media like Instagram.
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0xbadcafebee 3y ago
> You can’t do banking, communication with friends and family, looking knowledge up without a phone. And this is the proof of why people need to use smartphones less - you actually believe this, don't you? You can do banking through mail or at a bank office, you can communicate with family and friends a variety of ways without a phone, and you definitely do not need a phone to look up knowledge. Sheesh.
nonrandomstring 3y ago
> good to grow up without the best technological advancement of recent years A technological advancement is not necessarily a social or human advancement. Often we don't know at the time how it's going to pan out. Take the situation around "AI" right now, around which there is at least significant caution. No doubt you will disagree, but a great many people including myself think that smart-phones have been a great loss for society and individual health. > supercomputer that fits in your pocket and you can lookup everything humanity has done in seconds. This contrived retort is actually getting very jaded, because almost nobody uses it to "lookup everything humanity has done in seconds" - they use smartphones for TikTok and to order a pizza. Meanwhile "everything humanity has done" is still in any encyclopedia. > I understand the boomer sentiment of "phone bad" TFA is about an 11yo who decided "phone bad" > You can’t do banking, communication with friends and family, looking knowledge up without a phone. And that's a BIG PROBLEM. Not a desirable feature. Fortunately we have 11 year old kids who are bright enough to see that too. With a few more of them we'll get a society where you can do banking, communicate and learn using a wide choice of humane technologies. We still believe in things like markets, right? That human needs and demand drives technology, rather than the other way about?

appplication 3y ago

The flip side is children do not need to be exposed to tech at a young age in order to natively learn it. Many of us grew up with VCRs, limited computer access, no phones. And we have learned how to both use and directly build some of the most sophisticated digital technology in the world today. You could raise a kid in a cave for the first 10 years of their life before giving them their first glimpse of a screen and by age 13 they’ll be on the same level as every other kid regarding technological literacy. It’s totally a valid parenting strategy to be skeptical of the value of screens for children.

ajmurmann 3y ago

I can do all those things on my laptop which I've never picked up and then wondered why. (granted, I've opened browser tabs and then wondered why I just did that)

Dah00n 3y ago

You cannot educate a kid out of harms way from algorithms on Social Media like Instagram.

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0xbadcafebee 3y ago

> You can’t do banking, communication with friends and family, looking knowledge up without a phone. And this is the proof of why people need to use smartphones less - you actually believe this, don't you? You can do banking through mail or at a bank office, you can communicate with family and friends a variety of ways without a phone, and you definitely do not need a phone to look up knowledge. Sheesh.

nonrandomstring 3y ago

> good to grow up without the best technological advancement of recent years A technological advancement is not necessarily a social or human advancement. Often we don't know at the time how it's going to pan out. Take the situation around "AI" right now, around which there is at least significant caution. No doubt you will disagree, but a great many people including myself think that smart-phones have been a great loss for society and individual health. > supercomputer that fits in your pocket and you can lookup everything humanity has done in seconds. This contrived retort is actually getting very jaded, because almost nobody uses it to "lookup everything humanity has done in seconds" - they use smartphones for TikTok and to order a pizza. Meanwhile "everything humanity has done" is still in any encyclopedia. > I understand the boomer sentiment of "phone bad" TFA is about an 11yo who decided "phone bad" > You can’t do banking, communication with friends and family, looking knowledge up without a phone. And that's a BIG PROBLEM. Not a desirable feature. Fortunately we have 11 year old kids who are bright enough to see that too. With a few more of them we'll get a society where you can do banking, communicate and learn using a wide choice of humane technologies. We still believe in things like markets, right? That human needs and demand drives technology, rather than the other way about?