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That's a huge misrepresentation of what happened to SimCity. EA released a incredibly user-hostile version of SimCity (always online, microtransations and more)

That's a huge misrepresentation of what happened to SimCity. EA released a incredibly user-hostile version of SimCity (always online, microtransations and more) that almost no one liked, and Cities: Skylines was released around that time too.

tinco 3y ago
I bought both when they came out, and the user hostile stuff didn't bother me at all. What killed sim city was most definitely the performance issues. Unless they had a better reason for restricting the maximum city size. And then the fact that skylines had both a larger play area and more fancy city building features was just the killing blow. EA got caught out, thinking they could leisurely bring out an inferior product, when a competitor emerged guns blazing.
- notatoad 3y ago
  Yeah, the user-hostile DRM stuff was really just the icing on the cake. people regularly tolerate all that same stuff when the game is actually good. but when the game is shit, it makes it really easy to take a pricipled stance that you're boycotting the game because of DRM.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > I bought both when they came out, and the user hostile stuff didn't bother me at all. “You" and “users generally” are different things.
- lmkg 3y ago
  > Unless they had a better reason for restricting the maximum city size. They did! EA wanted you to play the game online. They encouraged you to connect your city with other players by making it difficult for cities to be self-sufficient. I.e., user-hostile design.
mjrpes 3y ago
The main reason I never purchased was the tiny map size. You could barely fit a neighborhood: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/19nz93/sim_city_5_2013_map_size/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/19nz93/sim_city_5_2...
- Sakos 3y ago
  Was that a performance limitation or a conscious design choice because of their "cloud" feature?
brnt 3y ago
Cities were absolutely tiny in Simcity 2013, they were barely neighbourhoods.

tinco 3y ago

I bought both when they came out, and the user hostile stuff didn't bother me at all. What killed sim city was most definitely the performance issues. Unless they had a better reason for restricting the maximum city size. And then the fact that skylines had both a larger play area and more fancy city building features was just the killing blow. EA got caught out, thinking they could leisurely bring out an inferior product, when a competitor emerged guns blazing.

notatoad 3y ago
Yeah, the user-hostile DRM stuff was really just the icing on the cake. people regularly tolerate all that same stuff when the game is actually good. but when the game is shit, it makes it really easy to take a pricipled stance that you're boycotting the game because of DRM.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> I bought both when they came out, and the user hostile stuff didn't bother me at all. “You" and “users generally” are different things.
lmkg 3y ago
> Unless they had a better reason for restricting the maximum city size. They did! EA wanted you to play the game online. They encouraged you to connect your city with other players by making it difficult for cities to be self-sufficient. I.e., user-hostile design.

mjrpes 3y ago

The main reason I never purchased was the tiny map size. You could barely fit a neighborhood: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/19nz93/sim_city_5_2013_map_size/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/19nz93/sim_city_5_2...

Sakos 3y ago
Was that a performance limitation or a conscious design choice because of their "cloud" feature?

brnt 3y ago

Cities were absolutely tiny in Simcity 2013, they were barely neighbourhoods.