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Psychdelics can and do kill meaningful amount of people, almost exclusively due to injuries while under their affects. 147 psychedelic deaths over three years

Psychdelics can and do kill meaningful amount of people, almost exclusively due to injuries while under their affects. 147 psychedelic deaths over three years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523208/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523208/ I'll have to find a youtube video but there's a good one with one of the psychdelic guru's describing a trip where had mis-dosed (he didn't realize the mushrooms he was consuming were significantly stronger than anticipated) and he ended up stuck in a "loop" of not being able to start his car.. for three or four hours. His exprience was distressing but not much of an injury, but he then delves into a story about how a similar loop resulted in one of his friends dying from repeatedly falling into cement.

grogenaut 3y ago
How did the guy end up with 2 different neophyte people they were instructing in dangerous situations and sharing that. Let's not mince word, if the first had started the carit would be a dangerous situation. In college with alcohol wed stick a sober watcher over the pre-frosh who decided to drink the first time away from home. Having just one go slightly sideways would make me really cautious. I was because freshman year I found some random pre-frosh who had hidden in a closet cause they thought they'd be in trouble (they were not, wet campus) who needed help.
freedomben 3y ago
If 147 in 3 years is "a meaningful amount of people" then we're gonna need to ban a lot of other stuff to stay consistent.
- debo_ 3y ago
  Like lakes, for example.
  - jvm___ 3y ago
    Stairs
  - Turing_Machine 3y ago
    Bathtubs.
  - huytersd 3y ago
    Running
  - quaddo 3y ago
    Earthquakes.
zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
Why was he trying to start his car? I'm glad he couldn't figure it out otherwise he could have killed someone. This is a personal responsibility thing.
rpearl 3y ago
The paper you linked does not say what you claim it says. Instead, it appears to investigate psychoactive drug deaths not to do with overdose. There appear to be no "traditional" psychedelics (serotonergic hallucinogens like LSD, psilocybin, etc) covered here _at all_ except perhaps one death categorized as a "hallucinogen", which is definitely a lot less than 100% of the 147 deaths investigated.
Projectiboga 3y ago
You misquoted the title, which is actually, "Fatal injuries while under the influence of psychoactive drugs". There was no psychedelic fatalities other than 1 MDMA & alcohol one. Those were all booze, and other drugs. I'm not saying there are none, it's just the death rate during psychedelic trips is a actually lower than for sober people. On average those drive less and are often in group settings, so it's more those substances don't alter the death rate and the safety is provided by the context of not driving as much as typical, and not working with machinery.

grogenaut 3y ago

How did the guy end up with 2 different neophyte people they were instructing in dangerous situations and sharing that. Let's not mince word, if the first had started the carit would be a dangerous situation. In college with alcohol wed stick a sober watcher over the pre-frosh who decided to drink the first time away from home. Having just one go slightly sideways would make me really cautious. I was because freshman year I found some random pre-frosh who had hidden in a closet cause they thought they'd be in trouble (they were not, wet campus) who needed help.

freedomben 3y ago

If 147 in 3 years is "a meaningful amount of people" then we're gonna need to ban a lot of other stuff to stay consistent.

debo_ 3y ago
Like lakes, for example.
- jvm___ 3y ago
  Stairs
- Turing_Machine 3y ago
  Bathtubs.
- huytersd 3y ago
  Running
- quaddo 3y ago
  Earthquakes.

zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago

Why was he trying to start his car? I'm glad he couldn't figure it out otherwise he could have killed someone. This is a personal responsibility thing.

rpearl 3y ago

The paper you linked does not say what you claim it says. Instead, it appears to investigate psychoactive drug deaths not to do with overdose. There appear to be no "traditional" psychedelics (serotonergic hallucinogens like LSD, psilocybin, etc) covered here _at all_ except perhaps one death categorized as a "hallucinogen", which is definitely a lot less than 100% of the 147 deaths investigated.

Projectiboga 3y ago

You misquoted the title, which is actually, "Fatal injuries while under the influence of psychoactive drugs". There was no psychedelic fatalities other than 1 MDMA & alcohol one. Those were all booze, and other drugs. I'm not saying there are none, it's just the death rate during psychedelic trips is a actually lower than for sober people. On average those drive less and are often in group settings, so it's more those substances don't alter the death rate and the safety is provided by the context of not driving as much as typical, and not working with machinery.