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Remember when they told us Maldives would be sunk by climate change. It's still there. If the proportionally tiny amounts of anthropogenic CO2 are really that

by fwungy 3y ago

Remember when they told us Maldives would be sunk by climate change. It's still there. If the proportionally tiny amounts of anthropogenic CO2 are really that big a factor we are already sunk. I'm starting to wonder if there's an unconscious death cult in the developed world that fetishizes planetary doom. That is the logical endpoint for the nihilism that has overtaken developed countries.

hulitu 3y ago
> I'm starting to wonder if there's an unconscious death cult in the developed world that fetishizes planetary doom No. It is just plain propaganda. People who are afraid are much easier to manipulate. That's all.
jonahbenton 3y ago
This is the sort of post that makes me wish for some even AI mediated chat feature on this platform. Like what?!? is this person's mental model such that they would think/utter such a thing. Breaks my mental model.
- racked 3y ago
  Could you be more specific as to what it is that breaks your mental model?
- fwungy 3y ago
  I'm the sort of person who doesn't take NPR or Fox News as serious sources. Some people really can't understand that. They see the works as two sides, good vs evil, themselves having chosen good.
vivekd 3y ago
I think there's a lot of truth to what you are saying. However I still think man-made climate change is real and I think some of the response to it has been positive - like trying to design walkable communities. But I agree there is also a lot of unnessary fear mongering and accusations at ordinary people and doomsdayism. I hope what is essentially a positive thing (wanting sustainability) doesn't get overtaken and misused by fanaticism or people with other agendas.
PeterisP 3y ago
With climate, there is a significant time delay between cause and effect. Maldives are already lost due to our actions, it just will take quite a few decades to materialize. The current actions will determine how large the change will be, nobody is really discussing ways to stop or prevent it (the time for that was in the last century), the discussion now is about limiting the growth of the change.
GeoAtreides 3y ago
> Maldives "By 2021, 90% of islands in the Maldives experienced severe erosion, 97% of the country no longer had fresh groundwater, and more than 50% of the national budget was being spent on efforts to adapt to the effects of climate change" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Maldives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Maldives

by fwungy 3y ago

hulitu 3y ago

> I'm starting to wonder if there's an unconscious death cult in the developed world that fetishizes planetary doom No. It is just plain propaganda. People who are afraid are much easier to manipulate. That's all.

jonahbenton 3y ago

This is the sort of post that makes me wish for some even AI mediated chat feature on this platform. Like what?!? is this person's mental model such that they would think/utter such a thing. Breaks my mental model.

racked 3y ago
Could you be more specific as to what it is that breaks your mental model?
fwungy 3y ago
I'm the sort of person who doesn't take NPR or Fox News as serious sources. Some people really can't understand that. They see the works as two sides, good vs evil, themselves having chosen good.

vivekd 3y ago

I think there's a lot of truth to what you are saying. However I still think man-made climate change is real and I think some of the response to it has been positive - like trying to design walkable communities. But I agree there is also a lot of unnessary fear mongering and accusations at ordinary people and doomsdayism. I hope what is essentially a positive thing (wanting sustainability) doesn't get overtaken and misused by fanaticism or people with other agendas.

PeterisP 3y ago

With climate, there is a significant time delay between cause and effect. Maldives are already lost due to our actions, it just will take quite a few decades to materialize. The current actions will determine how large the change will be, nobody is really discussing ways to stop or prevent it (the time for that was in the last century), the discussion now is about limiting the growth of the change.

GeoAtreides 3y ago

> Maldives "By 2021, 90% of islands in the Maldives experienced severe erosion, 97% of the country no longer had fresh groundwater, and more than 50% of the national budget was being spent on efforts to adapt to the effects of climate change" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Maldives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Maldives