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I think the closing point is pretty good: these businesses are complaining about declining revenues... but also turning people away? If that's how the nightclu

I think the closing point is pretty good: these businesses are complaining about declining revenues... but also turning people away? If that's how the nightclub business works, it's better for the government to stay away from subsidizing them. Let them run their business in their own way - but without taxpayer funding.

hackernewds 3y ago
why would taxpayers fund them? do they fund them?
- Whooping7116 3y ago
  Taxpayers fund them because it's part of our culture that is worth supporting. For example, Berlin clubs were financially supported as part of the Neustart Kultur campaign after covid.
squillion 3y ago
This. The truth is that those clubs are more elitist than the opera house.
- Whooping7116 3y ago
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- vinckr 3y ago
  Not true. Only the most famous ones are that selective and the opera is still many times more expensive - plus you actually need a certain dresscode at the opera.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago
    Not in Santa Fe :) And on the weekends when the divas are not singing, you can see Khruangbin ...
  - lmm 3y ago
    At which opera house? In my student days the cheap seats at the back were very cheap and you could wear anything.
  - akho 3y ago
    There is no dresscode at the opera. Most operagoers are adults, but that's about it.
  - twixfel 3y ago
    Opera houses in general aren't elitist or selective at all. You can turn up looking like shit no problem, I certainly have. They're just happy that people have come along to enjoy the music. So actually these places are many times more elitist and closed minded than your average opera house. Cringe.
  - watwut 3y ago
    Opera can be pretty cheap, actually. And you can show up dressed badly and wont be turned away. Some people will look at you sideways, but no one will tell you anything.
sneak 3y ago
If Berghain let in even 50% of the people who try to go to Berghain, the party would be terrible and repulsive every night. I’ve been there a million times and even one person who doesn’t know techno and the way our scene works can ruin a few dozen square meters of dancefloor with boorish leering. If you want to party in a sea of drunken tourists because they let everyone in, there are plenty of other clubs that aren’t nearly as protective of their dance floor vibe. Berghain is the exception, not the rule.
- kredd 3y ago
  I agree, and I don’t get why the whole conversation is framed around Berghain. The other clubs are losing customers as well, and many of them don’t have very strict bouncers. That’s a bigger problem imo.
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hackernewds 3y ago

why would taxpayers fund them? do they fund them?

Whooping7116 3y ago
Taxpayers fund them because it's part of our culture that is worth supporting. For example, Berlin clubs were financially supported as part of the Neustart Kultur campaign after covid.

squillion 3y ago

This. The truth is that those clubs are more elitist than the opera house.

Whooping7116 3y ago
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vinckr 3y ago
Not true. Only the most famous ones are that selective and the opera is still many times more expensive - plus you actually need a certain dresscode at the opera.
- PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago
  Not in Santa Fe :) And on the weekends when the divas are not singing, you can see Khruangbin ...
- lmm 3y ago
  At which opera house? In my student days the cheap seats at the back were very cheap and you could wear anything.
- akho 3y ago
  There is no dresscode at the opera. Most operagoers are adults, but that's about it.
- twixfel 3y ago
  Opera houses in general aren't elitist or selective at all. You can turn up looking like shit no problem, I certainly have. They're just happy that people have come along to enjoy the music. So actually these places are many times more elitist and closed minded than your average opera house. Cringe.
- watwut 3y ago
  Opera can be pretty cheap, actually. And you can show up dressed badly and wont be turned away. Some people will look at you sideways, but no one will tell you anything.

sneak 3y ago

If Berghain let in even 50% of the people who try to go to Berghain, the party would be terrible and repulsive every night. I’ve been there a million times and even one person who doesn’t know techno and the way our scene works can ruin a few dozen square meters of dancefloor with boorish leering. If you want to party in a sea of drunken tourists because they let everyone in, there are plenty of other clubs that aren’t nearly as protective of their dance floor vibe. Berghain is the exception, not the rule.

kredd 3y ago
I agree, and I don’t get why the whole conversation is framed around Berghain. The other clubs are losing customers as well, and many of them don’t have very strict bouncers. That’s a bigger problem imo.
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