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> Underneath the programming model lies a runtime that is responsible for distributing and executing components. The runtime makes all high-level decisions on h
by bob1029 3y ago
> Underneath the programming model lies a runtime that is responsible for distributing and executing components. The runtime makes all high-level decisions on how to run components. For example, it decides which components to co-locate and replicate.
So, Microsoft Orleans, Akka, et. al.?
This feels like rediscovery of virtual actor models to me - aka not the right answer for most business applications.
The end game is proper cloud-native, which means stop thinking about 100% of this bullshit. Alternatively, you need to take full ownership and do it all with single machine monoliths on-prem. Playing around in the middle is a death sentence (K8s, multiple machines, DIY networking stuff, etc). Your cloud provider should be the one taking psychological damage over this stuff, not your team.
There was a paper posted a while back that aptly describes modern development modes relative to the cloud - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.01045.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.01045.pdf. Figure 1 really helps to illustrate the spectrum of thinking. I've been using this aggressively to help various c-suites visualize where we are going. The super weird thing is that they seem WAY more excited about the strategic implications than every developer I know.
- mwcampbell 3y agoDoes cloud-native have to mean FaaS platforms with their proprietary APIs and vendor lock-in? Or could it also mean running containers on something high-level like AWS App Runner or Google Cloud Run?
- bob1029 3y agoIt doesn't have to mean that. There is always nuance in the middle. I'd simply say this: If you are still coming into direct contact with containerization tech, I don't think you are extracting the maximum amount of value that is currently available on these platforms. Today, I don't know how many machines are actually supporting our production environment. I don't care anymore. That is the central value proposition.
- jen20 3y agoOr Erlang and OTP.