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"They are king makers of the industry and drop suppliers like a hat for any offences." No they don't; "The FLA investigation, released late last week, resulte

by ktizo 15y ago

"They are king makers of the industry and drop suppliers like a hat for any offences." No they don't; "The FLA investigation, released late last week, resulted in the questioning of 35,000 Foxconn workers across the Chengdu, Longhua and Guanlan factories and found average hours worked per week were 56, compared to the legal Chinese limit of 49 hours, which includes overtime." http://www.crn.com.au/News/295713,apple-auditor-finds-foxconn-violated-worker-rights.aspx http://www.crn.com.au/News/295713,apple-auditor-finds-foxcon... [edit] I do think that Apple has taken a lead by the standards of the electronics industry, but the global standards of the commercial electronics industry are not high and Apple has been embarrassed into a lot of this. If Apple dropped suppliers for any serious violations in the way that you claim, they would not have the giant pile of money they have today.

xal 15y ago
Apple is quite adamant on work weeks standards, however this is in direct conflicts with the workers (!!). In fact, workers at Foxcon and others have started preferring to work for other companies then Apple because they can't get the amount of paid overtime that they want. Remember, China is a very different place then the US. Simply taking our own standards and transplanting them onto this area of the world will lead you to misunderstand the signals.
- Kylekramer 15y ago
  Nah, I think the standards are pretty universal. It isn't surprising they want more hours. It isn't like they love working, they love money (a very universal standard). The reason why it is in direct conflict with the workers is they aren't getting a fair wage. Overtime isn't a sign of happy workers, it is a sign of mismanagement and low wages.
  - sarvinc 15y ago
    This gave me pause; because I'd never thought of things this way. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to fit with my own experience. I've worked jobs that paid overtime. I worked overtime when I could, not because I felt the wage was unfair, but because I wanted the extra money.
    - ktizo 15y ago
      You average 56 hours a week? [edit] also, are you supporting a family in this? That makes a huge difference to the economics in both needing more time and more money.
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by ktizo 15y ago

xal 15y ago

Apple is quite adamant on work weeks standards, however this is in direct conflicts with the workers (!!). In fact, workers at Foxcon and others have started preferring to work for other companies then Apple because they can't get the amount of paid overtime that they want. Remember, China is a very different place then the US. Simply taking our own standards and transplanting them onto this area of the world will lead you to misunderstand the signals.

Kylekramer 15y ago
Nah, I think the standards are pretty universal. It isn't surprising they want more hours. It isn't like they love working, they love money (a very universal standard). The reason why it is in direct conflict with the workers is they aren't getting a fair wage. Overtime isn't a sign of happy workers, it is a sign of mismanagement and low wages.
- sarvinc 15y ago
  This gave me pause; because I'd never thought of things this way. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to fit with my own experience. I've worked jobs that paid overtime. I worked overtime when I could, not because I felt the wage was unfair, but because I wanted the extra money.
  - ktizo 15y ago
    You average 56 hours a week? [edit] also, are you supporting a family in this? That makes a huge difference to the economics in both needing more time and more money.

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