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I was nodding along until I read that they deflate XC90s. To me, that is a completely reasonable car if you have 3 children. I know people who buy Range Rovers

by dmazin 3y ago

I was nodding along until I read that they deflate XC90s. To me, that is a completely reasonable car if you have 3 children. I know people who buy Range Rovers just to drive to work, but not XC90s.

blitzar 3y ago
This is the equivalent thought process as "everyone making my salary + £1 or more gets paid way too much money and should be taxed at 100%"
- azherebtsov 3y ago
  What car would you recommend to a family of five? I have 2 kids and when we go for a trip the my Citroen c4 is full. Would I have one more kid it’s no way we can fit into this car, despite it has 5 seats. Should we stop thinking about road trips and consider only plane/train/bus? Or should we consider only van/caravan? I support the argument that unnecessary consumption should be penalised somehow, but I do not support blanket type rules that may discriminate absolutely reasonable people, like those with more than 2 kids.
  - LeanderK 3y ago
    I don't think you can drive a SUV in a city and fit 3 children in there. It's just too enormous, think about how massive it would be. We drove a van when I was small (VW sharan), which is the reasonable choice I think. I think SUV-type cars are generally too big for a city, except the smallest and a family should by a van as a van does generally not have such a large hood and it's height is not so high. Big cars in a city have negative consequences for others. This is not only about enviromentalism, but increasing walkability, liveability and bike-ability in dense city environments. In my last city (Tübingen), you have to buy a "parking pass" as a resident to park in the neighbourhood. They recently greatly increased the price for an SUV, which I think is a good idea.
    - azherebtsov 3y ago
      Xc90 length is 4953mm and width is 1923mm VW sharan length is 4854mm and width is 1904mm Therefore the difference in sizes is probably less than your palm. These cars are equally reasonable, it’s just a matter of personal preferences I think.
      - LeanderK 3y ago
        then maybe I am wrong! I just see those enormous SUVs all the time (probably small for americans), clogging the street and not fitting into parking spaces. With enormous, wasteful hoods. If you're family is big we have fitted in a van just fine and could also drive to our vacations.
  - ahartmetz 3y ago
    > What car would you recommend to a family of five? Any mid-sized or larger station wagon. From experience, even riding along in a recent Skoda Superb is quite fun. There is also an enormous amount of space in the trunk, which most SUVs don't have.
  - petre 3y ago
    Honda FRV was good but it's kind of old now. If you have one more kid, a minivan (anything that's used as an airport shuttle) or a 7 seater like the Ford S-Max, Peugeot 5008, Seat Tarraco, Skoda Kodiaq.
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Timshel 3y ago
As if having 3 kids is the norm ... And outside of the ability to have a third row of seats the xc90s compared to the v90 are just more expensive with less trunk space and less fuel efficient ...
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 3y ago
The Renault 5 was enough in the 80s for a family of 4. The XC90 is one of the biggest car I’ve ever seen. Why are small cars no longer acceptable?
- kuchenbecker 3y ago
  My current situation and not based on the previous generation :) I know it's a genuine question, but it does strike me as odd we expect the current generation to be satisfied with the preferences of the previous. Booster seat laws alone necessitate larger vehicles. I have two kids and regularly pack our Honda CRV beyond the point that is possible with our Civic. The stroller alone is big, way bigger than the umbrella one from when I was a kid. The Civic seats with my two large booster seats which I'm legally required to use until the kids are like 8-10, can only fit 4 people despite two people being very small, and the CRV allows my to put my seat the way I like in most situations rather than having less leg room (6'3"). The civic gets about 10% better economy than the CRV and I don't think I'd
herbstein 3y ago
Personally, my family owned a Peugeot 406 Estate when I was a kid/teenager. According to Wikipedia the that is L 4576 mm, W 1760 mm, and H 1396 mm. For comparison, the XC90 is L 4953 mm, W 2008 mm, and H 1776 mm. The 406 has 526 l of trunk space, while the XC90 has 680 l. With the 406 we did yearly trips to Southern Europe (from Denmark) with 5 people and gear for 2 weeks of vacation. IME people REALLY overestimate how much space they actually need. Hell, a colleague of mine has two kids in strollers. They're leasing a V60. She thinks the car is way too big, and she's looking forward to get a smaller car when their contract runs out. The plural of anecdote isn't data, but I firmly believe people use the space to justify

by dmazin 3y ago

I was nodding along until I read that they deflate XC90s. To me, that is a completely reasonable car if you have 3 children. I know people who buy Range Rovers just to drive to work, but not XC90s.

blitzar 3y ago

This is the equivalent thought process as "everyone making my salary + £1 or more gets paid way too much money and should be taxed at 100%"

azherebtsov 3y ago
What car would you recommend to a family of five? I have 2 kids and when we go for a trip the my Citroen c4 is full. Would I have one more kid it’s no way we can fit into this car, despite it has 5 seats. Should we stop thinking about road trips and consider only plane/train/bus? Or should we consider only van/caravan? I support the argument that unnecessary consumption should be penalised somehow, but I do not support blanket type rules that may discriminate absolutely reasonable people, like those with more than 2 kids.
- LeanderK 3y ago
  I don't think you can drive a SUV in a city and fit 3 children in there. It's just too enormous, think about how massive it would be. We drove a van when I was small (VW sharan), which is the reasonable choice I think. I think SUV-type cars are generally too big for a city, except the smallest and a family should by a van as a van does generally not have such a large hood and it's height is not so high. Big cars in a city have negative consequences for others. This is not only about enviromentalism, but increasing walkability, liveability and bike-ability in dense city environments. In my last city (Tübingen), you have to buy a "parking pass" as a resident to park in the neighbourhood. They recently greatly increased the price for an SUV, which I think is a good idea.
  - azherebtsov 3y ago
    Xc90 length is 4953mm and width is 1923mm VW sharan length is 4854mm and width is 1904mm Therefore the difference in sizes is probably less than your palm. These cars are equally reasonable, it’s just a matter of personal preferences I think.
    - LeanderK 3y ago
      then maybe I am wrong! I just see those enormous SUVs all the time (probably small for americans), clogging the street and not fitting into parking spaces. With enormous, wasteful hoods. If you're family is big we have fitted in a van just fine and could also drive to our vacations.
- ahartmetz 3y ago
  > What car would you recommend to a family of five? Any mid-sized or larger station wagon. From experience, even riding along in a recent Skoda Superb is quite fun. There is also an enormous amount of space in the trunk, which most SUVs don't have.
- petre 3y ago
  Honda FRV was good but it's kind of old now. If you have one more kid, a minivan (anything that's used as an airport shuttle) or a 7 seater like the Ford S-Max, Peugeot 5008, Seat Tarraco, Skoda Kodiaq.
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Timshel 3y ago

As if having 3 kids is the norm ... And outside of the ability to have a third row of seats the xc90s compared to the v90 are just more expensive with less trunk space and less fuel efficient ...

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 3y ago

The Renault 5 was enough in the 80s for a family of 4. The XC90 is one of the biggest car I’ve ever seen. Why are small cars no longer acceptable?

kuchenbecker 3y ago
My current situation and not based on the previous generation :) I know it's a genuine question, but it does strike me as odd we expect the current generation to be satisfied with the preferences of the previous. Booster seat laws alone necessitate larger vehicles. I have two kids and regularly pack our Honda CRV beyond the point that is possible with our Civic. The stroller alone is big, way bigger than the umbrella one from when I was a kid. The Civic seats with my two large booster seats which I'm legally required to use until the kids are like 8-10, can only fit 4 people despite two people being very small, and the CRV allows my to put my seat the way I like in most situations rather than having less leg room (6'3"). The civic gets about 10% better economy than the CRV and I don't think I'd

herbstein 3y ago

Personally, my family owned a Peugeot 406 Estate when I was a kid/teenager. According to Wikipedia the that is L 4576 mm, W 1760 mm, and H 1396 mm. For comparison, the XC90 is L 4953 mm, W 2008 mm, and H 1776 mm. The 406 has 526 l of trunk space, while the XC90 has 680 l. With the 406 we did yearly trips to Southern Europe (from Denmark) with 5 people and gear for 2 weeks of vacation. IME people REALLY overestimate how much space they actually need. Hell, a colleague of mine has two kids in strollers. They're leasing a V60. She thinks the car is way too big, and she's looking forward to get a smaller car when their contract runs out. The plural of anecdote isn't data, but I firmly believe people use the space to justify