> the traffic light says red, pedestrian light says green, and car is allowed to turn turn right, yes. > If so, this is an obvious recipe for disaster. i've

> the traffic light says red, pedestrian light says green, and car is allowed to turn turn right, yes. > If so, this is an obvious recipe for disaster. i've driven quite a bit in the US (not from around there), but from what i've seen it depends on population density, walking infrastructure, traffic etc. i would say that for most places this isn't an issue (most places don't even have sidewalks), but in cities with higher density you will encounter a situation where the car that is turning also needs to wait for the pedestrian to cross. on a side note, i've noticed the same thing in certain countries in Europe, but it felt a lot more dangerous: entering an intersection where you need to turn left: you first need to yield to oncoming cars, and then surprise, you immediately need to yield again to pedestrians that also have a green light. so you need to accelerate to turn left, and then immediately stop for pedestrians. i prefer the UK way: when the intersection has traffic lights either pedestrians or cars can move. there's no overlap, there's no intersecting pathways. it leads to longer wait times for everyone, but much improved safety. as a driver i won't have to look out for pedestrians, and vice-versa when i'm walking.