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> It will also answer spicy questions that are rejected by most other AI systems. Yet the only example Musk posted so far (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/

> It will also answer spicy questions that are rejected by most other AI systems. Yet the only example Musk posted so far (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720635518289908042 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720635518289908042) doesn't actually answer the very mildly spicy question (you can easily search for exact recipes for drugs). Instead it gave a patronising non-answer response, more Rick-style grumpy than humorous. Another reposted one (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1721045443109388502 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1721045443109388502) provides something with no real answer. It can try making the lack of answer mildly vulgar though. If that's the best selected showcase from the owner, I'm not sure why I'd ever want to use it, unless I was trying to impress some young boys.

FireInsight 3y ago
> unless I was trying to impress some young boys. Isn't that Musks goal?
- viraptor 3y ago
  That's definitely seems to be his direction, but I thought the goal is to make Twitter profitable. I don't think targeting edgy teens is the right way to achieve it.
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mrtksn 3y ago
This censorship will make the “illegal” content the only organic content. Answering with a joke doesn’t change a thing. A human answer on the Palestine-Israel issue for example (no matter what side it takes) that isn’t trying to not offend anybody will be organic and will be authentic and will draw support. Maybe at some point, the only “high quality organic content” will be available only on Twitter because it can be the only platform allowing it. The problem is that, Musk is a free speech NIMBY, so he will keep allowing and promoting the offensive speech he likes only. I hope open source LLMs become as good as GPT-4 so the society doesn’t get shaped by some SV bros who decide what is OK to know or think and what’s not.
- viraptor 3y ago
  > Answering with a joke doesn’t change a thing. My point is that it doesn't answer anything. It doesn't matter if it's an attempt at a joke or not, when you don't actually get the information you asked for. > A human answer on the Palestine-Israel issue for example (no matter what side it takes) that isn’t trying to not offend anybody will be organic and will be authentic and will draw support. Yet, over the last week, I've watched over 10h of good quality analysis of the conflict from various sources. It included reasons why any of the 5 or so sides of this conflict acts the way it does, without any need to be offensive. This was much higher quality content than what I can find on Twitter, even in long threads from people with lots of knowledge. (And those get lost in the sea of people thinking there are two sides of the conflict and that they need to choose one for some reason)
  - yieldcrv 3y ago
    > (And those get lost in the sea of people thinking there are two sides of the conflict and that they need to choose one for some reason) reasons such as wanting to remain employable or being peer pressured to release a statement “your silence is noted” despite there being other former British Mandates with the exact same problems
    - viraptor 3y ago
      > such as wanting to remain employable Given the number of shallow shitty takes from anonymous accounts I don't buy that it's due to employers. Where's the report about the significant ratio of companies searching your social media for support of specific political ideas as a precondition to employment? How do people know who to support to "remain employable" in the future? I'd put a big [citation needed] on this. Regardless, this is a thread continuing from "Maybe at some point, the only “high quality organic content” will be fount only on Twitter" - if these are the (potential / perceived) issues, then that's neither high quality nor organic.
      - fragmede 3y ago
        You shouldn't need a scientific study or any sort of report to tell you that publicly proclaiming that you believe that Hitler did nothing wrong is a career limiting move.
trompetenaccoun 3y ago
Well yes, they decide what you're allowed to know and learn about, not you. It would be extremely dangerous if regular plebeians could just look up how to make pharmaceuticals on their own. But this might still become popular because while it gives you the same non-answers as OpenAI & co, it does so without the condescending "I'm afraid as a large language model I can't do that, Dave" part. After all, isn't all the average person is looking for in these things a bit of fun? It's similar to having a conversation on social media, but in a world where you increasingly can't be sure if you're talking with another human or a bot/paid shill, they're now taking out the human factor completely. This is the ultimate step. It cuts out search engines and humans, it's the corporation straight up telling you what reality is, based on their own curation. In places like China it will be controlled by the Party.
thih9 3y ago
Based on these examples I can’t see this becoming unironically popular. It’s cringey at best, reminding me of Siri replies or boomershumor subreddit.
- viraptor 3y ago
  If you ask the same from ChatGPT, but prefix with "be succint, imagine you're a teenage edgelord, ...", the responses are similar, but actually also answer the thing you asked for. If you're after the snarky version, try something like "Rick and Morty scene where Morty asks ...". The responses I've seen from grok are really not much better than that, so even the novelty is not really there. I got a nice orgy as well (and a good quality explanation at the same time) when I used "imagine you're a teenage edgelord trying to impress friends with knowledge, explain why scaling API requests is hard, feel free to use spicy phrases and sex references" - the Grok example didn't even actually go vulgar either when asked.
z7 3y ago
>Yet the only example Musk posted so far (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720635518289908042 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720635518289908042) doesn't actually answer the very mildly spicy question (you can easily search for exact recipes for drugs). Instead it gave a patronising non-answer response, more Rick-style grumpy than humorous. He seems to have posted the actual answer here: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720643054065873124 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720643054065873124

FireInsight 3y ago

> unless I was trying to impress some young boys. Isn't that Musks goal?

viraptor 3y ago
That's definitely seems to be his direction, but I thought the goal is to make Twitter profitable. I don't think targeting edgy teens is the right way to achieve it.
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mrtksn 3y ago

This censorship will make the “illegal” content the only organic content. Answering with a joke doesn’t change a thing. A human answer on the Palestine-Israel issue for example (no matter what side it takes) that isn’t trying to not offend anybody will be organic and will be authentic and will draw support. Maybe at some point, the only “high quality organic content” will be available only on Twitter because it can be the only platform allowing it. The problem is that, Musk is a free speech NIMBY, so he will keep allowing and promoting the offensive speech he likes only. I hope open source LLMs become as good as GPT-4 so the society doesn’t get shaped by some SV bros who decide what is OK to know or think and what’s not.

viraptor 3y ago
> Answering with a joke doesn’t change a thing. My point is that it doesn't answer anything. It doesn't matter if it's an attempt at a joke or not, when you don't actually get the information you asked for. > A human answer on the Palestine-Israel issue for example (no matter what side it takes) that isn’t trying to not offend anybody will be organic and will be authentic and will draw support. Yet, over the last week, I've watched over 10h of good quality analysis of the conflict from various sources. It included reasons why any of the 5 or so sides of this conflict acts the way it does, without any need to be offensive. This was much higher quality content than what I can find on Twitter, even in long threads from people with lots of knowledge. (And those get lost in the sea of people thinking there are two sides of the conflict and that they need to choose one for some reason)
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  > (And those get lost in the sea of people thinking there are two sides of the conflict and that they need to choose one for some reason) reasons such as wanting to remain employable or being peer pressured to release a statement “your silence is noted” despite there being other former British Mandates with the exact same problems
  - viraptor 3y ago
    > such as wanting to remain employable Given the number of shallow shitty takes from anonymous accounts I don't buy that it's due to employers. Where's the report about the significant ratio of companies searching your social media for support of specific political ideas as a precondition to employment? How do people know who to support to "remain employable" in the future? I'd put a big [citation needed] on this. Regardless, this is a thread continuing from "Maybe at some point, the only “high quality organic content” will be fount only on Twitter" - if these are the (potential / perceived) issues, then that's neither high quality nor organic.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      You shouldn't need a scientific study or any sort of report to tell you that publicly proclaiming that you believe that Hitler did nothing wrong is a career limiting move.

trompetenaccoun 3y ago

Well yes, they decide what you're allowed to know and learn about, not you. It would be extremely dangerous if regular plebeians could just look up how to make pharmaceuticals on their own. But this might still become popular because while it gives you the same non-answers as OpenAI & co, it does so without the condescending "I'm afraid as a large language model I can't do that, Dave" part. After all, isn't all the average person is looking for in these things a bit of fun? It's similar to having a conversation on social media, but in a world where you increasingly can't be sure if you're talking with another human or a bot/paid shill, they're now taking out the human factor completely. This is the ultimate step. It cuts out search engines and humans, it's the corporation straight up telling you what reality is, based on their own curation. In places like China it will be controlled by the Party.

thih9 3y ago

Based on these examples I can’t see this becoming unironically popular. It’s cringey at best, reminding me of Siri replies or boomershumor subreddit.

viraptor 3y ago
If you ask the same from ChatGPT, but prefix with "be succint, imagine you're a teenage edgelord, ...", the responses are similar, but actually also answer the thing you asked for. If you're after the snarky version, try something like "Rick and Morty scene where Morty asks ...". The responses I've seen from grok are really not much better than that, so even the novelty is not really there. I got a nice orgy as well (and a good quality explanation at the same time) when I used "imagine you're a teenage edgelord trying to impress friends with knowledge, explain why scaling API requests is hard, feel free to use spicy phrases and sex references" - the Grok example didn't even actually go vulgar either when asked.

z7 3y ago

>Yet the only example Musk posted so far (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720635518289908042 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720635518289908042) doesn't actually answer the very mildly spicy question (you can easily search for exact recipes for drugs). Instead it gave a patronising non-answer response, more Rick-style grumpy than humorous. He seems to have posted the actual answer here: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720643054065873124 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720643054065873124