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There was a discussion on the Portland subreddit about someone who was making bumper stickers essentially saying “I don’t turn right on red” - because, at least
by kamranjon 3y ago
There was a discussion on the Portland subreddit about someone who was making bumper stickers essentially saying “I don’t turn right on red” - because, at least in Oregon, it’s entirely optional. Anyhow the amount of visceral negative reactions to it was pretty shocking to me, people suggesting this person shouldn’t be allowed on the road, calling them names, and it was just generally very surprising to me for something that is technically optional.
- flamedoge 3y agobecause ppl conflate what is allowed to what should be.
- CamperBob2 3y agoNo, we're just frustrated that everyone has to pay for the irresponsible behavior of a few. Nobody's saying that you should be required to turn right on red.
- Freedom2 3y agoIf a driver believes it's safer not to turn right on red, and they probably have the best opinion as they're likely to have the most vision, why is it irresponsible?
- CamperBob2 3y agoThe question being asked is precisely the opposite one. Who are you to forbid me to turn right on red when I can plainly see there is no risk to anyone? Irrational laws lead to contempt for the law in general. See unreasonably low speed limits for a classic example.
- freddie_mercury 3y agoBy "pay" you mean wait a few seconds?
- CamperBob2 3y agoWhy exactly do you think the law permitted this behavior in the first place?
- Gud 3y agoBecause the US is a car centric country that hates pedestrians? Nowhere else in the world is it allowed.
- wenc 3y ago> “I don’t turn right on red” - because, at least in Oregon, it’s entirely optional. I thought it was entirely optional everywhere, and prohibited in NYC and Montreal. A red does generally mean red, so no one can fault you for not turning on red. If I don't feel safe turning right on red (i.e. obstructed view) I just sit there.
- nunez 3y agoit's "optional" like "if you stick to the speed limit, you will get honked at" optional