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Man, I am glad someone is here to advocate for how fighting fire with fire is unacceptable. There is absolutely zero reasons for any union to flex their power a

• robert_foss 3y ago
  This is how McDonalds workers in Denmark got union coverage. There are actually many good reasons for this.
  • lovich 3y ago
    It may not have been obvious but I was being sarcastic. I thought the use of the word "filthy" when describing workers was bombastic enough to get my sarcasm across, but I do understand how this is a site filled with temporarily embarrassed billionaires and I could have hit Poe's law.
    • 3c6bYDXLMj 3y ago
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    • rychco 3y ago
      I’ll be honest I thought you were serious too until I read this reply. That being said, I know I’ve personally (as a US citizen) been conditioned from a young age to believe unions are a mixed-bag at best & outright criminal at worst. I also know as a matter of fact that this conditioning is incorrect, so there’s an odd feeling of momentary ambivalence whenever it pops back into my head.
    • ryandrake 3y ago
      Good sarcasm mixes in seamlessly with legit, sincerely held beliefs, and Hacker News has built up a sizable subset audience of people sincerely simping and white-knighting for corporations.
    • cscurmudgeon 3y ago
      Love the fight between embarrassed billionaires and embarrassed commissars.
      • lovich 3y ago
        I’m fairly certain the non billionaire “temporarily embarrassed billionaires” are much less forthright with their ideology than the commissars are. Tbh I’ve heard a lot of critique of communists but this this the first time I’ve heard someone claim they were embarrassed about their position
    • neither_color 3y ago
      I like how inflation has made having a million just ever so slightly realistic for enough people(heck you can get million dollar mortgages now) that Steinbeck's quote has been changed to "temporarily embarrassed billionaires"
    • rsynnott 3y ago
      On matters relating to Naughty Old Mr Car in particular, it can be difficult to tell; Poe’s Law is in full effect with some of his weirder fanboys.
  • slowhadoken 3y ago
    McDonalds is its own special case though. In the US they own a lot of property. It should drive down prices and raise wages but they choose not to. It’s crooked af and is a part of a system that produces all sorts of hidden cost on tax payers.
• grecy 3y ago
  You just need to decide if you want to live in a society where corporations have disproportionate power over employees and reap the enormous profits, or one where employees hold more power over corporations and therefore get more of the profits. You should check how that's working out for the citizens of the USA and Sweden, and ask the Swedish if they like getting more of the wealth they create or not. (hint: They love it)
  • kika 3y ago
    But the Tesla is for some reason an American company. Is that just a correlation or some causation too?
  • garciasn 3y ago
    I’m strongly anti-union. While they increase the average wage, they limit the top wages of those who are not average or below. That said, Sweden is clearly pro-union. If Musk didn’t want to have to deal with pro-union tactics, like those being employed and considered here, he should have stayed out of Sweden and/or any other market where he may find himself in a similar situation. But Elon thinks he can throw his money and muscle around and win whenever he wants. I hope he finds out he’s about to get more than he didn’t bargain for.
    • CPLX 3y ago
      > I’m strongly anti-union. While they increase the average wage, they limit the top wages of those who are not average or below. How would you rate the abilties and compensation of union members Lebron James and Keanu Reeves?
      • mensetmanusman 3y ago
        Lebron James would be an even larger billionaire. Also, he loves money so much he is afraid to speak out for the little guys being crushed in China lest he lose a few million.
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