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As always, they boast a lot how they are good. I heard the message. > The new "5.0" version of the GamersNexus website is now live, ad-free, and function-focu

by Kuinox 3y ago

As always, they boast a lot how they are good. I heard the message. > The new "5.0" version of the GamersNexus website is now live, ad-free, and function-focused. Here all the trackers that Privacy Badger blocked: googleads.g.doubleclick.net static.doubleclick.net play.google.com www.google.com www.googletagmanager.com fonts.gstatic.com cdn.jsdelivr.net o23210.ingest.sentry.io Edit: oh god, it's a drupal website.

askonomm 3y ago
What's wrong with Drupal?
- Kuinox 3y ago
  It recall me bad memories when I tried to maintain a drupal website, it was hell, it's a dedicated job.
  - akoncius 3y ago
    when it was? 20 years ago?
    - Kuinox 3y ago
      About 4-5 years ago ?
  - Incipient 3y ago
    That still doesn't explain what's wrong with it.
rchaud 3y ago
That may be because they have a Youtube video embedded in the post. All those scripts are Google related. Tag Manager is likely theirs however, for loading Google Analytics.
threeseed 3y ago
Last three are not trackers: Google Fonts, JS CDN and Error handling.
- Kuinox 3y ago
  Google Fonts leaks your IP to google, it's also not GDPR complient. JS CDN leaks your IP to a third party, they already have a CDN: cloudflare. Saying sentry.io is just "error handling" is wrong, it's a monitoring suite.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    That's a pretty tortured definition of tracking. Your IP gets leaked when using any third party service. There is no evidence that any of those listed use your IP for advertising purposes.
    - Kuinox 3y ago
      A tracker doesn't mean it's for advertising purpose.
lousken 3y ago
i would say the same about wordpress and joomla, unless it's statically generated it'll suck. The issue is regular people should be able to administer the site and add content to it. So drupal seems like a reasonable choice. with regards to other things mentioned - youtube-nocookie should have been used but other than that i don't see a problem? edit: drupal 10 is already out and they are still using 9 and not even 9.5
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  > The issue is regular people should be able to administer the site and add content to it Why not markdown + static site generator?
  - lousken 3y ago
    markdown makes sense for things like documentation, but with these sites like gamersnexus i think there are some issues 1) how do you migrate all the existing content from joomla (which they do want to migrate) - would it be in some terrible html only format? would it be a mix of html and markdown? 2) how do want to use markdown for articles like https://gamersnexus.net/features/inside-collapse-artesian-builds-20000000-bankrupt https://gamersnexus.net/features/inside-collapse-artesian-bu... ? it would be highly customized markdown anyway, and the more markdown additions are, the less markdown makes sense anyways since portability becomes an issue I think their current approach is fine - render once and cache is pretty normal. With that being said less is more and I hope they did not implement a lot of plugins or custom code that would require maintenance every other php/drupal upgrade. What I would like to see instead is using svg graphs with high accessibility instead of just pictures.

by Kuinox 3y ago

askonomm 3y ago

What's wrong with Drupal?

Kuinox 3y ago
It recall me bad memories when I tried to maintain a drupal website, it was hell, it's a dedicated job.
- akoncius 3y ago
  when it was? 20 years ago?
  - Kuinox 3y ago
    About 4-5 years ago ?
- Incipient 3y ago
  That still doesn't explain what's wrong with it.

rchaud 3y ago

That may be because they have a Youtube video embedded in the post. All those scripts are Google related. Tag Manager is likely theirs however, for loading Google Analytics.

threeseed 3y ago

Last three are not trackers: Google Fonts, JS CDN and Error handling.

Kuinox 3y ago
Google Fonts leaks your IP to google, it's also not GDPR complient. JS CDN leaks your IP to a third party, they already have a CDN: cloudflare. Saying sentry.io is just "error handling" is wrong, it's a monitoring suite.
- threeseed 3y ago
  That's a pretty tortured definition of tracking. Your IP gets leaked when using any third party service. There is no evidence that any of those listed use your IP for advertising purposes.
  - Kuinox 3y ago
    A tracker doesn't mean it's for advertising purpose.

lousken 3y ago

i would say the same about wordpress and joomla, unless it's statically generated it'll suck. The issue is regular people should be able to administer the site and add content to it. So drupal seems like a reasonable choice. with regards to other things mentioned - youtube-nocookie should have been used but other than that i don't see a problem? edit: drupal 10 is already out and they are still using 9 and not even 9.5

PartiallyTyped 3y ago
> The issue is regular people should be able to administer the site and add content to it Why not markdown + static site generator?
- lousken 3y ago
  markdown makes sense for things like documentation, but with these sites like gamersnexus i think there are some issues 1) how do you migrate all the existing content from joomla (which they do want to migrate) - would it be in some terrible html only format? would it be a mix of html and markdown? 2) how do want to use markdown for articles like https://gamersnexus.net/features/inside-collapse-artesian-builds-20000000-bankrupt https://gamersnexus.net/features/inside-collapse-artesian-bu... ? it would be highly customized markdown anyway, and the more markdown additions are, the less markdown makes sense anyways since portability becomes an issue I think their current approach is fine - render once and cache is pretty normal. With that being said less is more and I hope they did not implement a lot of plugins or custom code that would require maintenance every other php/drupal upgrade. What I would like to see instead is using svg graphs with high accessibility instead of just pictures.