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This is completely incorrect. Remote operators cannot “take over controls” at all and hence cannot help in any “emergency” i.e. safety critical situation (e.g.
by ra7 3y ago
This is completely incorrect. Remote operators cannot “take over controls” at all and hence cannot help in any “emergency” i.e. safety critical situation (e.g. preventing a crash). All they can do is assist the vehicle with things drawing a path to get around a parked vehicle, instructing it to do a multi-point turn when it’s stuck and so on.
What the article says is that Cruise vehicles need some sort of assistance every 2.5 to 5 miles (I highly doubt this number is accurate). Not that they’re getting into emergency situations that frequently.
- haltist 3y agoDo you work at Cruise?
- ra7 3y agoNo.
- haltist 3y agoThen you wouldn't know if I was completely incorrect or not.
- ra7 3y agoI do because I know self driving companies have talked about how remote operations work. It doesn’t involve taking control of the vehicle. Here’s a Waymo engineer explaining how they can’t joystick a car: https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/s/2ujFLZoLbo https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/s/2ujFLZoLbo And here is Zoox’s video about their teleoperations: https://youtu.be/NKQHuutVx78?si=4PDnG0gQm6lEnp9v https://youtu.be/NKQHuutVx78?si=4PDnG0gQm6lEnp9v No reason to believe Cruise is doing any different. If you have evidence of the contrary, please share it.
- haltist 3y agoSo you are 100% certain that remote operators can not take over the car?
- ra7 3y agoBased on what I know, yes. Why would they want to do it with the latencies involved? It’s not a reliable solution, so it’s not used in any safety critical path.
- haltist 3y ago> In addition to allowing emergency crews to access and move vehicles, Cruise says that it is also providing its own remote "assistance advisors" the ability to conditionally route its Chevrolet Bolts. This means that if law enforcement directs Cruise to route its vehicles away from an emergency scene, those advisors will maneuver the cars in a way that satisfies the request. The AV provider also says that it has enhanced the ability of these remote operators to clear a scene, should an issue arise.[1] 1: https://www.thedrive.com/news/cruises-solution-to-robotaxis-blocking-emergency-vehicles-let-them-move-the-car https://www.thedrive.com/news/cruises-solution-to-robotaxis-...
- ra7 3y agoCan you explain how this supports your assertions? Because this doesn’t say they can take over control of the vehicle or prevent an emergency in the first place. They clear the cars by plotting a new path.
- haltist 3y agoYou seemed very certain that I was completely incorrect. My point is that you should consider that you might not have all the details and if you haven't actually worked at an AV company then you do not know what capabilities are granted to remote operators in emergency and non-emergency situations.
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