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Have you lived in these situation? I have, and I don’t share your view.

• pixl97 3y ago
  Not to be too snippy here, but I'm not sure you could possibly imagine anyone elses view but your own at this point... Start iterating over dozens of possible positions and you'll see yours is really a more extreme outlier. And while not Amish myself, I was born in the middle of Amish country and have quite a bit of experience with populations that choose to analyze technologies before they accept them into their lives, and rejecting those they do not like. But the Amish have the same issue, they live in very low density populations. As their populations increase their members tend to leave for modern lives. Trying to live in cities without modern conveniences has lots of issues.
  • s1artibartfast 3y ago
    I dont think that anyone denies the difficulty of self sufficiency in the middle of a dense urban city. I think the Ancapistani was providing context that this is not a universal truth. There are plenty of areas, outside of cities, where people live much more self reliant lives, and they are not third world hellscapes.
    • Ancapistani 3y ago
      Exactly my point. I’m definitely not saying municipal utilities are a bad thing - I’m sharing my experiences that show that they aren’t always necessary. The comment I originally replied to said: > Maybe people prefer having pressurized clean tap water and sewer systems due to something other than marketing and social pressure I’ve lived in rural areas, small towns, and the “big city”. It’s not as binary a proposition as the original commenter was making it out to be. That’s all I’m trying to share.