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Just turn it off. You will get a short period of withdrawal then you'll get the world as it is. I did, and while I miss some stuff, I'm better off. Don't blame

Just turn it off. You will get a short period of withdrawal then you'll get the world as it is. I did, and while I miss some stuff, I'm better off. Don't blame "I'm hooked". It's down to you.

kossTKR 3y ago
The problem is that i can do this but not kids. I've become better at it and is always reminded of the quiet summers when i was a child, the beautiful boredom and fantasy of "some part of my life that happened a long time ago", or running around without a cellphone, just being completely present and "away" from others in good and healthy sense like a rite de passage. When i see nieces in family everyone under the age of 20 is always inside of cyberspace, never present in the here and now, and while being hypersocial is normal for a teen, it's to an extreme degree for everyone including the smallest ones.
ryandrake 3y ago
Trying to see the other side of it: The real world pretty much sucks, for adults and for children. Adults are living one missed paycheck away from insolvency. The rent is due in a week, and they're not sure they'll be able to pay it this month. Grocery bill is up over $200, and $5 doesn't even get the car home from the gas station. And Lumburgh is very likely to do another round of layoffs before Christmas. Aunt Sophie is addicted to meth and now uncle Leroy got himself arrested again, and their elderly mom won't stop calling to make the extended family figure out how to take care of Sophie's other kids. Their joints are in pain, but they can't afford to go to the doctor. They have 4 maxxed out credit cards and zero retirement savings. The real world for kids is awful, too. They are constantly bored and there is no place to just go and play because the real world was not built for dreaming and play, but for commerce and every square inch of the planet needs to be either a parking lot or a business. And that's even if they could go places, but they can't because everything is a car ride away and they can't drive. They can't even get on a bicycle and go exploring because one of their miserable nosey neighbors will call the police or Child Protective Services if they see an unaccompanied kid roaming around. From the moment they enter school, they're told that the world is coming to an end due to climate change, and they're all gonna die. And the world is awful for young adults/old teenagers. There are almost no jobs available that pay even close to what it would take to barely move out of their parents' basements. They know that they will never own a home, nor have any kind of financial security, and that the world is deliberately set up to allow a handful of people to sponge up everything, so why even bother? And if they do manage to get a job that lets them barely pay rent, they had to move to an unfamiliar, lonely city to take the job, leaving all their friends behind. It's no wonder everyone is addicted to their phones and the fantasy worlds of games and social media. The real world is pretty awful for a lot of people.
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  > Aunt Sophie is addicted to meth and now uncle Leroy got himself arrested again Does this reflect your actual life experiences or an invention? Because a lot of htis sounds like made-up whingeing. > The real world for kids is awful, too. They are constantly bored and there is no place to just go and play ... We can discuss the merits child boredom vs. child abuse if you wish because I can certainly do that. Your all-stations broadcast of failure and despair is boring. Stop it.
- ddq 3y ago
  I’ve increasingly come to believe that sheltering young children from the harsh realities of the world and providing them a safe environment for their formative years is a necessity. They need to be allowed to grow into young people who are intellectually and emotionally prepared to deal with the all the chaos, fear, and violence of the world without being crippled from the start. Early childhood is so crucially important to positive outcomes later in life. They need to be lied to because the truth actively harms their development. The unfiltered deluge of information is toxic. Innocence isn’t just a nebulous concept, it is valuable to growth and increasingly vulnerable. I want every child to grow up with physical safety, financial stability, and a beautiful world. Then when they reach a suitable age they will be better equipped to handled reality without cracking under the immense pressure. I hope I’m communicating this clearly, I’m not advocating for any political side, or “think of the children“ moralizing, nor do I have a practical plan to offer. I’m just depressed with how bad kids have it and how few adults really care.

Just turn it off. You will get a short period of withdrawal then you'll get the world as it is. I did, and while I miss some stuff, I'm better off. Don't blame "I'm hooked". It's down to you.

kossTKR 3y ago

The problem is that i can do this but not kids. I've become better at it and is always reminded of the quiet summers when i was a child, the beautiful boredom and fantasy of "some part of my life that happened a long time ago", or running around without a cellphone, just being completely present and "away" from others in good and healthy sense like a rite de passage. When i see nieces in family everyone under the age of 20 is always inside of cyberspace, never present in the here and now, and while being hypersocial is normal for a teen, it's to an extreme degree for everyone including the smallest ones.

ryandrake 3y ago

Trying to see the other side of it: The real world pretty much sucks, for adults and for children. Adults are living one missed paycheck away from insolvency. The rent is due in a week, and they're not sure they'll be able to pay it this month. Grocery bill is up over $200, and $5 doesn't even get the car home from the gas station. And Lumburgh is very likely to do another round of layoffs before Christmas. Aunt Sophie is addicted to meth and now uncle Leroy got himself arrested again, and their elderly mom won't stop calling to make the extended family figure out how to take care of Sophie's other kids. Their joints are in pain, but they can't afford to go to the doctor. They have 4 maxxed out credit cards and zero retirement savings. The real world for kids is awful, too. They are constantly bored and there is no place to just go and play because the real world was not built for dreaming and play, but for commerce and every square inch of the planet needs to be either a parking lot or a business. And that's even if they could go places, but they can't because everything is a car ride away and they can't drive. They can't even get on a bicycle and go exploring because one of their miserable nosey neighbors will call the police or Child Protective Services if they see an unaccompanied kid roaming around. From the moment they enter school, they're told that the world is coming to an end due to climate change, and they're all gonna die. And the world is awful for young adults/old teenagers. There are almost no jobs available that pay even close to what it would take to barely move out of their parents' basements. They know that they will never own a home, nor have any kind of financial security, and that the world is deliberately set up to allow a handful of people to sponge up everything, so why even bother? And if they do manage to get a job that lets them barely pay rent, they had to move to an unfamiliar, lonely city to take the job, leaving all their friends behind. It's no wonder everyone is addicted to their phones and the fantasy worlds of games and social media. The real world is pretty awful for a lot of people.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
> Aunt Sophie is addicted to meth and now uncle Leroy got himself arrested again Does this reflect your actual life experiences or an invention? Because a lot of htis sounds like made-up whingeing. > The real world for kids is awful, too. They are constantly bored and there is no place to just go and play ... We can discuss the merits child boredom vs. child abuse if you wish because I can certainly do that. Your all-stations broadcast of failure and despair is boring. Stop it.
ddq 3y ago
I’ve increasingly come to believe that sheltering young children from the harsh realities of the world and providing them a safe environment for their formative years is a necessity. They need to be allowed to grow into young people who are intellectually and emotionally prepared to deal with the all the chaos, fear, and violence of the world without being crippled from the start. Early childhood is so crucially important to positive outcomes later in life. They need to be lied to because the truth actively harms their development. The unfiltered deluge of information is toxic. Innocence isn’t just a nebulous concept, it is valuable to growth and increasingly vulnerable. I want every child to grow up with physical safety, financial stability, and a beautiful world. Then when they reach a suitable age they will be better equipped to handled reality without cracking under the immense pressure. I hope I’m communicating this clearly, I’m not advocating for any political side, or “think of the children“ moralizing, nor do I have a practical plan to offer. I’m just depressed with how bad kids have it and how few adults really care.