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The better option is to not track them and to trust them and teach them about risks and autonomy and then allow them to make small mistakes now, so they won’t m
by mosselman 3y ago
The better option is to not track them and to trust them and teach them about risks and autonomy and then allow them to make small mistakes now, so they won’t make big mistakes later when they don’t listen to you anymore.
- RALaBarge 3y agoAnother cloistered bad take on the internet. You are legally responsible for your child until they are 18. There is a universe of difference between not trusting your children vs taking reasonable steps to ensure their safety by knowing their location when necessary.
- doublerabbit 3y agoSometimes somethings don't have a one direct answer.
- TrickardRixx 3y agoThis somehow wasn't an issue when my parents were raised. It's just me that has to bear having been raised by a controlling narcissist.
- skeeter2020 3y agoHow did "legally responsible for your child until they are 18" turn into "track them 24/7"? I would strongly argue permanent surveillance exceeds "reasonable steps", but I know I'm in the minority.
- dangus 3y agoNon-parents seem to forget that children don’t have the same rights as adults. They don’t get all the same rights to privacy and freedom because they were birthed by their parents. Parents have a legal right and obligation to know where their kids are. The technology used to achieve it is a mere implementation detail. Also, technically, any adult who owns a smartphone has already consented to be permanently location tracked by their carrier and various entities that can buy location data from your carrier legally.
- tarboreus 3y agoThat's...not true? You don't have a legal obligation to know where your child is. Contextually, you might often want to know where they are, or who they're currently with in a broad sense. For older children, they can have autonomy for periods of time that can be pretty long.
- mosselman 3y agoAh yes. Maybe we go back to the good old days before cell phones and the internet where kids were tethered to their parents with a 50m piece of rope. /s
- billy99k 3y agoDo you have kids? Kids don't make good decisions and trust takes time to build. Tracking kids is so the 'small mistakes' don't turn into something more serious.
- skeeter2020 3y ago>> Tracking kids is so the 'small mistakes' don't turn into something more serious. The obvious question is "what did we do before?" I'm not sure how tracking stops serious mistakes; maybe it resolves them after the fact, suggesting that tracking their phone is not going to help parenting and you need another approach? And yes, I do have kids of my own ranging from pre-phone to a brand new driver, so I get your motivation.
- igetspam 3y agoBefore the advent of cell phones, kids couldn't call you or tell you where they were, if they were lost. We lose fewer kids now.
- averageRoyalty 3y ago> Kids don't make good decisions and trust takes time to build. Agreed, and it's our job as parents to sheppard them. Handing them a skinner box and plonking them into the world doesn't solve that problem. And tracking then 24/7 isn't likely to help. Kids have been finding ways to get around their parents knowing what they're doing throughout all of humanity, and smartphones won't (and haven't) changed that.
- igetspam 3y agoTrusting little kids to not get abducted or wander off is how kids get lost. We're not talking about teenagers here, we're talking about children.