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International waters (the 'high seas') are free and represent about 50% of the world's surface

by oska 3y ago

em500 3y ago
Obtaining a vessel that can reach international waters (let alone one that enables you to survive there for a long time) is quite expensive.
- shrubble 3y ago
  Yrvind.com - this guy built some interesting and inexpensive boats and has sailed all over.
  - oska 3y ago
    Really appreciate that link, thanks. Hadn't heard of the guy before. Only started to explore his blog. I watched this video [1] to get an idea about the man and his boat design philosophy and it's very cool. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bca5_uyH9E4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bca5_uyH9E4
    - mongol 3y ago
      He publishes a video daily about his current boat building [1]. He is 83 years old, plans to sail from Norway or Ireland to New Zealand in it, and after that build another boat! Also, he has invented the Bris sextant [2]. Very intersting guy. 1: https://www.youtube.com/@SvenYrvindExlex https://www.youtube.com/@SvenYrvindExlex 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bris_sextant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bris_sextant
    - shrubble 3y ago
      He has been famous since I think the late 1980s in Sweden for his many small boat adventures.
- grecy 3y ago
  It's not hard to get a decent sail boat that would do the trick for well under $50k. For under $100k you're living large (literally). While that is not nothing, it's a heck of a lot less than we're all going to spent on rent (or mortgage) plus gas, car insurance, car payments, parking, house insurance, electricity, water and all the rest. "Cheap" is relative I guess.
  - pnut 3y ago
    There are plenty of people who have documented the actual cost of doing this over decades, to the penny. A couple catching their food, doing their own boat maintenance. $300k over ten years is the line below which you are arguably living homeless like transient vanlife, but on water - that is, living on the margins of society, on borrowed time. So buying a boat ($$), getting it fitted initially ($$), after that, maybe $2,500/month. On my bucket list :D
    - grecy 3y ago
      I've driven from Alaska to Argentina, right around the coastline of Africa and right around Australia. On the Pan-American Highway for two years I spent an average of $1,200 per month, for all expenses including SCUBA diving, shipping the Jeep (and flying myself) around the Darien Gap and everything else. That was 40,000 miles In Africa I spent an average of $1,650 for all expenses including all National parks, visas, and all the rest. That was 54,000 miles. I find it very difficult to believe sailing a boat with free wind power, free sleeping when at wild places and better access to free food costs more per day than driving a Jeep tens of thousands of miles that gets ~16mpg.
      - AureliusMA 3y ago
        A boat that doesn’t work sinks and kills you. A car that doesn’t work stays put. It’s a whole different world. I would not trade my van for a boat if I was looking for a cheap life.
        grecy 3y ago

International waters (the 'high seas') are free and represent about 50% of the world's surface

by oska 3y ago

International waters (the 'high seas') are free and represent about 50% of the world's surface

Obtaining a vessel that can reach international waters (let alone one that enables you to survive there for a long time) is quite expensive.

shrubble 3y ago
Yrvind.com - this guy built some interesting and inexpensive boats and has sailed all over.
- oska 3y ago
  Really appreciate that link, thanks. Hadn't heard of the guy before. Only started to explore his blog. I watched this video [1] to get an idea about the man and his boat design philosophy and it's very cool. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bca5_uyH9E4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bca5_uyH9E4
  - mongol 3y ago
    He publishes a video daily about his current boat building [1]. He is 83 years old, plans to sail from Norway or Ireland to New Zealand in it, and after that build another boat! Also, he has invented the Bris sextant [2]. Very intersting guy. 1: https://www.youtube.com/@SvenYrvindExlex https://www.youtube.com/@SvenYrvindExlex 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bris_sextant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bris_sextant
  - shrubble 3y ago
    He has been famous since I think the late 1980s in Sweden for his many small boat adventures.
grecy 3y ago
It's not hard to get a decent sail boat that would do the trick for well under $50k. For under $100k you're living large (literally). While that is not nothing, it's a heck of a lot less than we're all going to spent on rent (or mortgage) plus gas, car insurance, car payments, parking, house insurance, electricity, water and all the rest. "Cheap" is relative I guess.
- pnut 3y ago
  There are plenty of people who have documented the actual cost of doing this over decades, to the penny. A couple catching their food, doing their own boat maintenance. $300k over ten years is the line below which you are arguably living homeless like transient vanlife, but on water - that is, living on the margins of society, on borrowed time. So buying a boat ($$), getting it fitted initially ($$), after that, maybe $2,500/month. On my bucket list :D
  - grecy 3y ago
    I've driven from Alaska to Argentina, right around the coastline of Africa and right around Australia. On the Pan-American Highway for two years I spent an average of $1,200 per month, for all expenses including SCUBA diving, shipping the Jeep (and flying myself) around the Darien Gap and everything else. That was 40,000 miles In Africa I spent an average of $1,650 for all expenses including all National parks, visas, and all the rest. That was 54,000 miles. I find it very difficult to believe sailing a boat with free wind power, free sleeping when at wild places and better access to free food costs more per day than driving a Jeep tens of thousands of miles that gets ~16mpg.
    - AureliusMA 3y ago
      A boat that doesn’t work sinks and kills you. A car that doesn’t work stays put. It’s a whole different world. I would not trade my van for a boat if I was looking for a cheap life.
      - grecy 3y ago