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> No, you have to pay for it. No, I don't. > It's not charity and you are not entitled. You're right. I'm not entitled to it. They give them away for free. I

by usea 3y ago

> No, you have to pay for it. No, I don't. > It's not charity and you are not entitled. You're right. I'm not entitled to it. They give them away for free. I'm taking advantage of that. They've been doing it a long time. I'll keep watching them until they're not offered anymore. At no point have I been obligated to watch their ads. I didn't strike some deal with them where I promised to watch their ads in exchange for videos. I'm simply accepting their free videos. You don't get to invent obligations in other people that they never agreed to.

eklavya 3y ago
Yes, you can choose to take advantage of any system by not playing by the rules. I pray to God it doesn't become a paid only service cutting off the poor people who are poor but not cheap.
- usea 3y ago
  > Yes, you can choose to take advantage of any system by not playing by the rules. What rule do you think there is that requires me to watch youtube ads? By what mechanism do you think I'm beholden to that rule? Is it a real rule that I have to abide by for some reason, or more like a feeling you have about the way things should be? I am genuinely curious where you think my obligation to watch ads comes from.
  - eklavya 3y ago
    The rule of give and take. You get something, they get something. What's your stance on big companies profiting off of open source tech without giving absolutely anything back? Do you think they have any obligations at all?
    - usea 3y ago
      > What's your stance on big companies profiting off of open source tech without giving absolutely anything back? Do you think they have any obligations at all? No, they don't. Not beyond what's explicitly in the license. It may be in their interest to invest in open source software they use. Or they may simply want to do it, even if it's not in their interest. But they have no obligation to do so. If they did, it would be in the license, and as a result that license would not be open source. To say that users of open source software are obligated to contribute is an attack on the idea of open source. The reason I license my software the way I do is so that users are not required to do anything to see it or use it. That's the whole point. I'm giving it away, like youtube does their videos.

by usea 3y ago

eklavya 3y ago

Yes, you can choose to take advantage of any system by not playing by the rules. I pray to God it doesn't become a paid only service cutting off the poor people who are poor but not cheap.

usea 3y ago
> Yes, you can choose to take advantage of any system by not playing by the rules. What rule do you think there is that requires me to watch youtube ads? By what mechanism do you think I'm beholden to that rule? Is it a real rule that I have to abide by for some reason, or more like a feeling you have about the way things should be? I am genuinely curious where you think my obligation to watch ads comes from.
- eklavya 3y ago
  The rule of give and take. You get something, they get something. What's your stance on big companies profiting off of open source tech without giving absolutely anything back? Do you think they have any obligations at all?
  - usea 3y ago
    > What's your stance on big companies profiting off of open source tech without giving absolutely anything back? Do you think they have any obligations at all? No, they don't. Not beyond what's explicitly in the license. It may be in their interest to invest in open source software they use. Or they may simply want to do it, even if it's not in their interest. But they have no obligation to do so. If they did, it would be in the license, and as a result that license would not be open source. To say that users of open source software are obligated to contribute is an attack on the idea of open source. The reason I license my software the way I do is so that users are not required to do anything to see it or use it. That's the whole point. I'm giving it away, like youtube does their videos.