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And yet, eating food that has spoiled contains chemicals that are inherently dangerous to your body causing food-poisoning. That people would prefer NOT to bel

by sharts 3y ago

And yet, eating food that has spoiled contains chemicals that are inherently dangerous to your body causing food-poisoning. That people would prefer NOT to believe those with vested interest in profiting from selling things exposed to chemicals isn't an invalid concern.

dgroshev 3y ago
What spoiled food has to do with it? If anything, it's a tautology, because "spoiled" effectively means "bad", when the process of "spoiling" is harmless we call it "blue cheese" or "kimchi". "Things exposed to chemicals" is literally anything you see around you. Water is a "chemical". Glucose is a "chemical". Vitamin C is a "chemical". I don't understand your point.
oooyay 3y ago
Food poisoning is caused by viruses and bacteria. As another poster pointed out, a lot of GMO crops are altered in such a way that they don't need as many pesticides. Non-GMO often need more pesticides and the GMO label has nothing to do with pesticides - just genetic modification. If you don't trust me, just ask the FDA: https://www.fda.gov/food/agricultural-biotechnology/why-do-farmers-us-grow-gmo-crops https://www.fda.gov/food/agricultural-biotechnology/why-do-f...
- bigbillheck 3y ago
  > Food poisoning is caused by viruses and bacteria. I've got plenty of E.coli in my gut already, the risk in food poisoning is not that I'll get a few more, it's that I'll get a few more that also produce shigatoxin.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  Discussing GMO's in general and not specific varieties is about as productive as discussing manmade materials- the topic is too broad. What are we even comparing- bricks vs stones? Copper vs a rock? Monsanto was producing crops that better withstand it's chemicals and China is producing Rice that can tolerate salt water. Clearly China is Innovating to feed it's people while Monsanto is 'Innovating' to boost their share price.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    Comparing Monsanto to China is an even sillier comparison than copper vs rock.
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  - oooyay 3y ago
    You certainly can discuss them in general, here's the NIH doing a meta analysis: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4218791/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4218791/ > Studies were included when they build on primary data from farm surveys or field trials anywhere in the world, and when they report impacts of GM soybean, maize, or cotton on crop yields, pesticide use, and/or farmer profits. In total, 147 original studies were included. > On average, GM technology adoption has reduced chemical pesticide use by 37%, increased crop yields by 22%, and increased farmer profits by 68%. Yield gains and pesticide reductions are larger for insect-resistant crops than for herbicide-tolerant crops. Yield and profit gains are higher in developing countries than in developed countries.

by sharts 3y ago

dgroshev 3y ago

What spoiled food has to do with it? If anything, it's a tautology, because "spoiled" effectively means "bad", when the process of "spoiling" is harmless we call it "blue cheese" or "kimchi". "Things exposed to chemicals" is literally anything you see around you. Water is a "chemical". Glucose is a "chemical". Vitamin C is a "chemical". I don't understand your point.

oooyay 3y ago

Food poisoning is caused by viruses and bacteria. As another poster pointed out, a lot of GMO crops are altered in such a way that they don't need as many pesticides. Non-GMO often need more pesticides and the GMO label has nothing to do with pesticides - just genetic modification. If you don't trust me, just ask the FDA: https://www.fda.gov/food/agricultural-biotechnology/why-do-farmers-us-grow-gmo-crops https://www.fda.gov/food/agricultural-biotechnology/why-do-f...

bigbillheck 3y ago
> Food poisoning is caused by viruses and bacteria. I've got plenty of E.coli in my gut already, the risk in food poisoning is not that I'll get a few more, it's that I'll get a few more that also produce shigatoxin.
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
Discussing GMO's in general and not specific varieties is about as productive as discussing manmade materials- the topic is too broad. What are we even comparing- bricks vs stones? Copper vs a rock? Monsanto was producing crops that better withstand it's chemicals and China is producing Rice that can tolerate salt water. Clearly China is Innovating to feed it's people while Monsanto is 'Innovating' to boost their share price.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  Comparing Monsanto to China is an even sillier comparison than copper vs rock.
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- oooyay 3y ago
  You certainly can discuss them in general, here's the NIH doing a meta analysis: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4218791/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4218791/ > Studies were included when they build on primary data from farm surveys or field trials anywhere in the world, and when they report impacts of GM soybean, maize, or cotton on crop yields, pesticide use, and/or farmer profits. In total, 147 original studies were included. > On average, GM technology adoption has reduced chemical pesticide use by 37%, increased crop yields by 22%, and increased farmer profits by 68%. Yield gains and pesticide reductions are larger for insect-resistant crops than for herbicide-tolerant crops. Yield and profit gains are higher in developing countries than in developed countries.