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Portugal. The Man – Official Website Is a Google Sheets Document
- lazycouchpotato 3y agoHaha that's funny. Surprisingly functional as well. Website's definitely suffering in performance while having a grand total of .. 37 viewers.
- babyshake 3y agoThis makes me want to see an electronic act with a Github repo for their website containing markdown docs for tour, merch, etc.
- Geezus_42 3y agoYou're giving me ideas haha
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- low_tech_punk 3y agotruly headless CMS
- d0tn3t 3y agotruly CMSless head
- lionkor 3y agoAnd a huge cookie popup and a massive signup banner
- vk6flab 3y agoI'm surprised that Google Sheets hasn't been throttled on that url yet. At one point I provided live tracking data to a popular event site using Google Sheets and advised their web team to create a local cache of the data and refresh it every 10 minutes. Instead they ignored that advice and included the document itself into the home-page. The document was hugged to death within about 30 minutes of going live on a four day event and it took days for Google to increase their throttle, at which point it didn't matter any more, since the event was over. I realise that Google has infrastructure to handle this load, but an international event, with a (then) Google Apps account, was unable to make enough noise at Google to fix things in a timely manner.
- runeks 3y ago> I'm surprised that Google Sheets hasn't been throttled on that url yet. It is for me. I get a banner saying some features are disabled due to high traffic.
- martinsmit 3y agoSimilar to Hyukoh's[1], although it is actually multiple documents. P.TM seem to have gone all in, which is neat. [1]: http://www.hyukoh.com/ http://www.hyukoh.com/
- spacecadet 3y agoI once made a google sheets social network facebook clone, just because I thought I could. Shared with some friends (who each got a protected tab). It was dumb.
- shmde 3y ago"Some tools not available due to huge traffic." Why is gdocs shitting itself while handling 28 concurrent users just viewing a doc ?
- somewhereoutth 3y ago"A country is a group of people," guitar player and vocalist John Gourley explains. "With Portugal, it just ended up being the first country that came to mind. The band's name is 'Portugal'. The period is stating that, and 'The Man' states that it's just one person" (any one of the band members). I'm not expecting a lot from their song writing after this statement.
- _xe9h 3y ago> I'm not expecting a lot from their song writing after this statement. They are actually quite a well-known band, so you shouldn’t be so cynical. People on HN love to judge things before they know anything about it. This band has won a Grammy award, but you were content to assume the worst for trivial reasons.
- somewhereoutth 3y agoA band name is not trivial. It doesn't seem they spent any time or effort thinking up a good one (unless of course there is a marketing angle here, and the name (and band?) was entirely manufactured).
- vlunkr 3y agoLet’s be real, the Beatles is one of the worst band names ever. People often name their band when they are young and they get stuck with it. If Portugal the man is manufactured (entirely baseless claim) they did a pretty terrible job with it. They recorded and toured for ~15 years before getting any mainstream success.
- somewhereoutth 3y agoGranted. But 'Portugal. The man' seems particularly cack-handed. Worse to me as I actually live in Portugal currently, it would have been nice to see some sort of connection.
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- garganzol 3y agoThe problem with this website is that it's filled with popups suggesting to accept cookies, privacy, and stuff. Before I ever see an unobstructed web page, I have to perform about two or three clicks accompanied with intimidating text descriptions. The more clicks the better, right? More clicks is a sure sign of improved engagement. But seriously, it is not.
- budgi4 3y agoThe issue you describe is a general one driven by regulation and not specific to this website
- latexr 3y ago> driven by regulation It’s driven by privacy invasive practices from the services. I have never created a website that showed popups or required people to “accept” anything, because I respect the people who visit them. The websites who say they “value your privacy” while at the same time revealing they have “1542 partners” (yes, really) they share your data with are the problem. It’s as if the milk industry were peeing in your milk, a law passed saying they could only do that with consent, and you complained of all the pee warnings being driven by regulation. I mean, technically the warning are only there because of regulation, but the law isn’t the thing to criticise there, the behaviour which lead to it is.
- rabbits_2002 3y agoseems very difficult to use on mobile. i suppose it doesnt matter since most people buy tickets through third parties.
- branon 3y agoThis would be a decent idea if the mobile site wasn't terrible
- JoshGG 3y agoIf you click on the Tab 'FRANCES CHANGED MY LIFE' it shows that band members John and Zoe have a daughter Frances. They're raising money to fund research into Frances' rare neurological disease: "Frances has a rare genetic mutation that causes a degenerative disease called DHDDS. In the last few years, breakthroughs in medical science have made it possible to develop a treatment. Unfortunately, it's extremely expensive. We are telling Frances’story in hopes of raising enough donations to fund her treatment." https://www.chrisblackchangedmylife.com/donate https://www.chrisblackchangedmylife.com/donate Hopefully the HN traffic boost can help drive some donations and new research into treating neurological diseases. Donate!
- lovasoa 3y agoThese things always make me uneasy. On the one hand, I understand they are in a very hard situation. On the other hand, donating to research into rare neurological diseases will literally save hundreds of times fewer lives than donating to "effective" charities (https://www.effectivealtruism.org/ https://www.effectivealtruism.org/)
- rafram 3y agoEffective altruism has worked out pretty well, hasn’t it?
- lovasoa 3y agoIs this a reference to Sam Bankman-Fried ? He was a promoter of effective altruism and also a fraudster. But I'm not sure why that should prevent non-fraudsters to also promote effective altruism.
- seattle_spring 3y agoHis perspective was literally that being a fraudster is OK if it nets you billions of dollars that can go toward significant causes. It's at the core of "effective altruism": the ends justify the means. So yes, he was a shining example of why "effective altruism" is just an excuse to do terrible things / make small improvements in the world.
- demarq 3y agoIt’s over for frontend devs, no code has won
- sirsinsalot 3y agoIf only.
- FFP999 3y agoSo that would be Portugal. The Man. The Website. The Google Sheet. Thanks very much I'm here all week, try the Beef Wellington.
- seattle_spring 3y agoReminds me of "Coupon: The Movie: The Ride" https://youtu.be/LLnoLmCqT30 https://youtu.be/LLnoLmCqT30
- alfnor 3y agoSince it loads everything at once, navigation is very snappy, which I really like. I'd rather let the whole thing load once than wait every time I click an internal link.
- gardenhedge 3y agoThis doesn't work well on mobile devices. Hopefully it doesn't become a trend.
- nunez 3y agoFucking incredible.
- adv0r 3y agoFYI they are rising money to save their kid https://gofund.me/d012bb5b https://gofund.me/d012bb5b the tech side is fun but the most important link is hidden and I see very few donations rolling it for it to be home the HN front page
- hirenj 3y agoIf anyone is wondering, this looks a bit like a syndromic set of phenotypes resulting from the mutation(s) in DHDDS. The mutations are hitting a really bad part in the glycosylation pathways, where I can imagine impacts on a massive number of proteins. I’m assuming this is a hypomorph, as if you lost function of this gene completely, it’s hard to see how any cell can survive.
- kstrauser 3y agoNo one was wondering that about Portugal. The Man’s website.
- wrayjustin 3y agoFrom the website: https://www.chrisblackchangedmylife.com/donate https://www.chrisblackchangedmylife.com/donate
- throw555chip 3y agoI got, "Some tools might be unavailable due to heavy traffic in this file.".
- artemisyna 3y agoIf it works it works?
- spondylosaurus 3y agoDoesn't work so well on mobile though :(
- jdoliner 3y agoIf it doesn't work it doesn't work.
- jeron 3y agoYou speak the True True.
- alanbernstein 3y agoWorks fine for me, with the caveat that my phone screen is so big that it doesn't actually fit in my hand
- omginternets 3y agoDoes it not work, or are you just saying it could be better?
- corbezzoli 3y agoThere’s a huge fixed unclosable signup overlay at the bottom so the viewport is limited. Also the content is not scaled down so you have to pan on two axis. Some text is so long it doesn’t fit in the viewport. Nearly literally unusable.
- omginternets 3y agoYeah I mean… it’s clunky but it does get the job done…
- jdoliner 3y agoI love these guys. I'm not sure what learning this means for my fan ship. They never struck me as a particular no-frills aesthetic type of group. I wonder if they made this themselves or there's some story behind it.
- NoToP 3y agoThey're being rebels just for kicks
- omginternets 3y agoHow long have you been feeling it?
- NoToP 3y agoSince 19:56
- j3s 3y agomany websites _should_ be this tbh. lmao
- tehwebguy 3y agoThis is a pretty good idea to be fair.
- senthil_rajasek 3y agoI love this band. But this is actually a terrible idea. Artist websites (IMO) have an actual purpose, keeping your audience updated with tour dates for one. Agents and venues looking for promo pictures. Festival planners looking to get a sense of your style etc., Artist websites have a variety of audiences. My bet would be that they started tracking tour dates on a Google Sheet and decided to share it to a tour manager and here we are...
- leehuffman 3y ago> But this is actually a terrible idea. A lot of people say that about a lot of art. 'Terrible ideas' can be very, very dope though. IMO mapping their primary domain to a fuckin' Google Sheet is banger hah. > Artist websites (IMO) have an actual purpose, keeping your audience updated with tour dates for one. Those are there, though? Also Google returns the 29 tour tracking/ticketing platforms in their trailing results behind the primary domain. I think the fans will be ok... > Agents and venues looking for promo pictures. > Festival planners looking to get a sense of your style etc. Bruh it's Portugal. The Man. There is one agent (theirs) and venues/festival "planners" (???) aren't "looking" for promo photos – they're delivered by their agent and/or management with restrictions, guidelines, and approval for promotional use only. They can't just pull random media off the internet for promo. Nobody is trying to determine their "style". That's been clearly defined for a minute (decade+) now. If anything these people are selling PTM, not the other way around. > My bet would be that they started tracking tour dates on a Google Sheet and decided to share it to a tour manager and here we are... I can guarantee you that's incorrect. You don't think they plot & plan & intelligently deploy their entire, well... everything? For months on months before we see it? Nobody fumbled about, tweaked the layout & styling, and toggled the Share function on the Google Sheet organically haha.
- wodenokoto 3y agoBand websites used to be very much about an art experience and very little about conveying any kinds of facts. Back in the early 2000s homepages of artists like Radiohead were quite avant-garde and you’d be lucky to learn anything really.
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- solardev 3y agoWe've gone full circle from Word home pages to spreadsheet ones now, yay
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- mocha_nate 3y agoThis looks so bad on mobile lol
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- cooper_ganglia 3y agoActually works well to get the points across (on desktop, at least), and is interesting from an artistic perspective. I enjoy it as an interesting anecdote, but it does make for a comparatively miserable browsing experience!
- Slow_Hand 3y agoNow might be a good time to mention the band Vulfpeck's website, which is refreshingly stripped-down and no more flashy in it's design than Craigslist. Aside from it's custom typeface: https://www.vulfpeck.com/ https://www.vulfpeck.com/ The site is a little light on content right now because there's not much going on with the band, but going back in time you can see how crisp and functional the entire thing is, even when loaded with information: https://web.archive.org/web/20200417092603/https://vulfpeck.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200417092603/https://vulfpeck....
- 6581 3y ago> which is refreshingly stripped-down Until you look at the HTML source.
- computerfriend 3y agoI really like Vulf Mono. More bands should make their own typeface.
- wswope 3y agoSimilar one that I love from Nicolas Jaar with major indie-hacker vibes, albeit a less sick typeface: https://nicolasjaar.net/ https://nicolasjaar.net/
- spookie 3y agoI love his mixes, this is great!
- mattmcknight 3y agoAfter years of dormancy, a surprising new chapter in the using <table> for layout debate emerges.
- divbzero 3y agoThe most adept practitioners can create pixel-perfect bitmaps by minimizing column widths and row heights and tweaking background color cell by cell.
- user3939382 3y agoSomeone implemented Doom in Excel https://youtu.be/J2qU7t6Jmfw https://youtu.be/J2qU7t6Jmfw
- dackerlunghack 3y agoPlease try to understand us We’ve said goodbye to Kansas Since time immemorial (hyperbole, millennial!) <table> has been my <canvas>
- inopinatus 3y agoWith slightly larger granularity, and for somewhat more mundane purposes, it's also a neat way to present QR codes. Especially good for QR codes via email, since no attachment is required and almost every client supports tables.
- ivlad 3y agoI felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror.
- kibwen 3y ago...and were suddenly set to `display: none;`
- gardenhedge 3y agoWhile this site has some similarities to reddit, HN is not reddit.
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- Yhippa 3y agoSpreadsheets: the original no-code platform. I like it. Infinitely scalable, easy to update. Most of the time when I go to an artist's site it's to find tour dates or merch. This does both okay.
- flatline 3y agoAbout that scaling… I’ve seen workflows with data chunked out into multiple excel files because the results exceeded the row limit (4 million?) Going through all that by hand was a pain, and it took hours to go from a flat file format to spreadsheets. Parquet took this down to seconds, and provided a rich data analysis API. Spreadsheets scale for small to medium-ish workflows and are very much a drag for anything remotely “big.”
- ashu1461 3y agoCan we implement a locking mechanism with purely using google sheets ? Example think of a hotel room booking system
- foota 3y agoLol, I wonder if this has caused issues for Google
- eep_social 3y agoI’m sure it’s slamming a (hopefully very) fast cache since the load is all read.
- pests 3y agoThe Sheets UI is showing only about ~33 viewers.
- smcleod 3y agoI really enjoy Portugal. The Man, so many good days in the sun playing their music over the years.
- Apocryphon 3y agoA fun funky idea. Sad I can’t think of a ton of HN worthy ideas of musical acts making newsworthy tech-empowered quirky choices. The last thing that comes to mind is Radiohead making In Rainbows pay-what-you-want.
- plugin-baby 3y agoWhat about when U2’s new album appeared on iPods automatically?
- Apocryphon 3y agoTrue. It was newsworthy, albeit in a cringeworthy way.
- Geezus_42 3y agoThis is why I was never interested in U2. I'm sure they made great stuff before I was born, but my primary exposure to them as a kid was Apple iPod ads. It turned me off them and I have ignored their existence ever since.
- vlunkr 3y agoOne Hacker Band is a robot band that plays real instruments. Vulfpeck fans won’t shut up about the fact that the band made their own font.
- aylmao 3y agoThey're playing with Good Kid! A few years back I was in a tech interview in San Francisco, and after the fact I hung out with other candidates in the city. One of them was from Canada and told us he played in a band. This is the band! Happy to see this project still going strong and gaining traction!
- ckbishop 3y agoIdea shamelessly lifted from Zack Fox. https://zackfox.com/ https://zackfox.com/
- anderber 3y agoIt looks like John Gurley has a GoFundMe to help research a treatment/cure for his daughter's genetic mutation: https://gofund.me/d012bb5b https://gofund.me/d012bb5b
- dools 3y agoIt’s a pet peeve of mine how selectively the “don’t editorialise headlines” guideline is enforced
- HellsMaddy 3y agoThe title accurately describes what's interesting about the submission, no hyperbole or clickbait. What's wrong with that?
- andybak 3y agoNothing. That's the point.
- jlund-molfese 3y agoThere’s a difference between headlines and page titles imo. A (good) headline already tells you what’s interesting about a link, whereas a page title may or may not.
- alin23 3y agoI also have an iOS published app that has a Google Sheets “backend”: https://subsol.one https://subsol.one It’s an app for finding parties and festivals in Romania, and the sheets choice makes it super easy for my brother and his friends to add parties to the app. I thought about adding a “real” database and tried some apps/frontends for them, but nothing made it easy enough to update and insert rows for non technical people. I figured I could just download and cache the Sheets CSV, and use that for the database. PS: the app is the one I had trouble getting published because the App Store reviewers deemed it“too simple”: https://notes.alinpanaitiu.com/Dealing-with-App-Store-rejections https://notes.alinpanaitiu.com/Dealing-with-App-Store-reject...
- ziolko 3y agoYou can easily turn a spreadsheet into a small CRUD database with HTTP API using Google Apps Script. I've shared an example a few years ago: https://spreadapi.roombelt.com/setup https://spreadapi.roombelt.com/setup.
- lovasoa 3y agoFor your next app backend, you should try SQLPage [1][2] It makes creating a small web form to feed your database as easy as SELECT 'form' AS component; SELECT name, label, type FROM form_fields; INSERT INTO parties(name, date) VALUES(:name, :date); And creating an api on top of that db as simple as: SELECT 'json' AS component, (SELECT JSON_GROUP_ARRAY(JSON_OBJECT('name', name, 'date', date)) FROM parties) AS contents; [1] https://sql.ophir.dev/ https://sql.ophir.dev/ [2] https://github.com/lovasoa/SQLPage https://github.com/lovasoa/SQLPage
- reynoldsbd 3y agoLove it when a band does something weird or interesting with their website. My favorite is The Strokes: https://www.thestrokes.com/ https://www.thestrokes.com/
- notRobot 3y agoThere's also https://redfoo.com/ https://redfoo.com/
- Floralegeium 3y agoIf anyone is interested one of the founding members Dewey Halpaus has a podcast called Peer Pleasure Podcast. He interviews other bands and often speak about his time touring and going through the music industry. I believe in addition to the podcast he also works a tradesman in Oregon. Great Idea for Anyone who just needs to point people in a direction to find them.