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The longer this project seems to...drag on? without "replacing android" the more I get a sense it seems like somewhere that Google engineers who aren't "good en

The longer this project seems to...drag on? without "replacing android" the more I get a sense it seems like somewhere that Google engineers who aren't "good enough" go to "rest and vest" As far as I'm aware it runs on exactly one Google product, because they aborted attempts to shoe-horn it into some others?

harikb 3y ago
I would give them the benefit of doubt that there are forces outside of the control of those who are really building these things. Frankly, kind of presumptuous to call them inferior engineers. Working on an OS, particularly one that has to out-perform ios and android isn't simple.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
  When you see the massive progress being made by say the Redox project (Rust based microkernel), it feels there has to be something internal which is preventing the project from advancing.
  - hollerith 3y ago
    What mainstream browser has been ported to Redox?
  - vore 3y ago
    What mass market hardware is Redox being shipped on direct from manufacturers? Fuchsia is shipping on the Nest Hub, where is Redox?
    - 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
      Redox is made by volunteers, not a trillion dollar company who decided to install their own OS onto their own hardware. Point being is that making a micro kernel OS should be fully within their wheelhouse. If Google is not getting it done, there is some process or internal king maker which is preventing it from happening.
      - vore 3y ago
        But they are getting it done, it's shipping on consumer hardware literally right now!
        Grazester 3y ago
        Yes it is. It's used on Google Hub smart speakers
wiseowise 3y ago
Android is one of the most successful Google products, why would they announce that this experimental whatever it is is replacing it?
- readams 3y ago
  It's not going to replace Android, but it could replace the Linux part that lives under Android.
  - wiseowise 3y ago
    That’s completely different from “replace Android”, isn’t it?
tomcam 3y ago
Downvoted because while I don't love Google, I really don't like passive aggression like this, especially when it's wrong. > ... the more I get a sense it seems like somewhere that Google engineers who aren't "good enough" go to "rest and vest" The rest and vest thing is rare but the exception is usually people in acquihires they don't want to let go of. Usually they're the opposite of what you're imagining--very smart people they just don't want working at other companies. The ones who aren't good enough are released. This is 2023.

harikb 3y ago

I would give them the benefit of doubt that there are forces outside of the control of those who are really building these things. Frankly, kind of presumptuous to call them inferior engineers. Working on an OS, particularly one that has to out-perform ios and android isn't simple.

0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
When you see the massive progress being made by say the Redox project (Rust based microkernel), it feels there has to be something internal which is preventing the project from advancing.
- hollerith 3y ago
  What mainstream browser has been ported to Redox?
- vore 3y ago
  What mass market hardware is Redox being shipped on direct from manufacturers? Fuchsia is shipping on the Nest Hub, where is Redox?
  - 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
    Redox is made by volunteers, not a trillion dollar company who decided to install their own OS onto their own hardware. Point being is that making a micro kernel OS should be fully within their wheelhouse. If Google is not getting it done, there is some process or internal king maker which is preventing it from happening.
    - vore 3y ago
      But they are getting it done, it's shipping on consumer hardware literally right now!
      - Grazester 3y ago
        Yes it is. It's used on Google Hub smart speakers

wiseowise 3y ago

Android is one of the most successful Google products, why would they announce that this experimental whatever it is is replacing it?

readams 3y ago
It's not going to replace Android, but it could replace the Linux part that lives under Android.
- wiseowise 3y ago
  That’s completely different from “replace Android”, isn’t it?

tomcam 3y ago

Downvoted because while I don't love Google, I really don't like passive aggression like this, especially when it's wrong. > ... the more I get a sense it seems like somewhere that Google engineers who aren't "good enough" go to "rest and vest" The rest and vest thing is rare but the exception is usually people in acquihires they don't want to let go of. Usually they're the opposite of what you're imagining--very smart people they just don't want working at other companies. The ones who aren't good enough are released. This is 2023.