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what's this for again?

by biorach 3y ago

goalieca 3y ago
So google can inject adware into the kernel itself instead for Android.
- anotherhue 3y ago
  Yeah Google didn't control enough of the stack for their liking.
rwmj 3y ago
Is it still being funded by Google? That seemed to be in doubt earlier in the year.
- Grazester 3y ago
  It's an open source project that is developed by Google(not funded by). It's used on their Google hub smart devices. They had layoff in the department but until they decide to discontinue their smart devices then they will continue active development of this.
  - jeffbee 3y ago
    Is it necessarily tied to smart devices? I always wondered if it was also partially desired by Google for displacing Linux in some roles inside their data centers. In any case, they are still landing hundreds of changes per day, so it doesn't even resemble a dead project.
    - Grazester 3y ago
      There is nothing tying it to their smart devices. It's maybe that they just choose to use it here first or here publicly. Who is to say it isn't used internally and they just haven't said as yet?
fidotron 3y ago
In seriousness it is so that Google could update a kernel and any board/platform specific drivers would (in principle) be unaffected, plus all the extra security. In theory a great idea.
- fidotron 3y ago
  EDIT: It's actually true about the GPL to whoever downvoted that replier, although saying the precise reason for that even remotely publicly would get you shot.
- iris2004 3y ago
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0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
I also want to know why they did not start with seL4 as the base. A Proven micro kernel foundation with real resources to provide all the missing user space pieces would be a huge win for the industry.
- lugu 3y ago
  They probably started with LK because it had all the drivers from Qualcomm. https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/kernel/zx_and_lk https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/kernel/zx_and_lk
_ea1k 3y ago
I wonder the same thing. There's enough there that it could replace the basis for Chrome OS, right? I wonder if that could happen in the near-ish future. Maybe also it could find its place in Google servers, and more... eventually?

what's this for again?

goalieca 3y ago

So google can inject adware into the kernel itself instead for Android.

anotherhue 3y ago
Yeah Google didn't control enough of the stack for their liking.

rwmj 3y ago

Is it still being funded by Google? That seemed to be in doubt earlier in the year.

Grazester 3y ago
It's an open source project that is developed by Google(not funded by). It's used on their Google hub smart devices. They had layoff in the department but until they decide to discontinue their smart devices then they will continue active development of this.
- jeffbee 3y ago
  Is it necessarily tied to smart devices? I always wondered if it was also partially desired by Google for displacing Linux in some roles inside their data centers. In any case, they are still landing hundreds of changes per day, so it doesn't even resemble a dead project.
  - Grazester 3y ago
    There is nothing tying it to their smart devices. It's maybe that they just choose to use it here first or here publicly. Who is to say it isn't used internally and they just haven't said as yet?

fidotron 3y ago

In seriousness it is so that Google could update a kernel and any board/platform specific drivers would (in principle) be unaffected, plus all the extra security. In theory a great idea.

fidotron 3y ago
EDIT: It's actually true about the GPL to whoever downvoted that replier, although saying the precise reason for that even remotely publicly would get you shot.
iris2004 3y ago
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0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago

I also want to know why they did not start with seL4 as the base. A Proven micro kernel foundation with real resources to provide all the missing user space pieces would be a huge win for the industry.

lugu 3y ago
They probably started with LK because it had all the drivers from Qualcomm. https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/kernel/zx_and_lk https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/kernel/zx_and_lk

_ea1k 3y ago

I wonder the same thing. There's enough there that it could replace the basis for Chrome OS, right? I wonder if that could happen in the near-ish future. Maybe also it could find its place in Google servers, and more... eventually?