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VSCode is far superior to the actual Visual Studio in so many ways. It's definitely closer to Visual Studio than it is to Notepad++. On personal note: my compa

VSCode is far superior to the actual Visual Studio in so many ways. It's definitely closer to Visual Studio than it is to Notepad++. On personal note: my company pays for Visual Studio Ultimate + Jetbrains for me and I rarely open it these days and use VSCode 99% of the time.

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globular-toast 3y ago
Yeah, it's superior to Visual Studio because it's more like Emacs, a text editor. Emacs users saw the benefits of a single text editor a long, long time ago. Back when I started programming it was common for people to use a different IDE per language. There was VS, Eclipse, Dreamweaver etc. I thought that was insane. It's been funny seeing people finally realise the same a decade later.
- no_wizard 3y ago
  counterpoint: JetBrains IDEs are the sweetspot between absolute single purpose IDEs (like Eclipse) and text editors that require plugins to be useful (broadly speaking). I am all in on JetBrains, to be perfectly transparent, but I have yet to see anything come close to the seamless experience I've had with their IDEs
- usrusr 3y ago
  Eclipse a single purpose IDE? Back when eclipse was the dominant java IDE, it almost felt as if a language did not exist before it had its very own eclipse plugin.
  - stiGGG 3y ago
    Yeah, didn’t they market themselves as the framework for IDEs? I can remember in the late 2000s Eclipse was very popular in the php community. The C/C++ plugin was also widely used.
wkat4242 3y ago
I don't agree. Visual Studio Code lacks the actual 'visual' part, like the form builder.
- galangalalgol 3y ago
  That is a good point about the name, never thought about it. And if I ever wanted to write gui code that only worked in windows, I guess I'd consider it? But that has never been a use case for me, and everything else about vscode is better.
SirMaster 3y ago
What can VS Code do that Visual Studio can’t?
- thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
  >> What can VS Code do that Visual Studio can’t? Run natively on Linux: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux
  - galangalalgol 3y ago
    Set breakpoints and step through rust code running remotely on a microcontroller?
thesuavefactor 3y ago
Try publishing a .net webforms project in vs code. Or jetbrains Rider for that matter.
- this_steve_j 3y ago
  The gauntlet has been thrown! I respectfully decline the challenge, as I am no longer a gentleman of the ViewState society.
philippejara 3y ago
And so is emacs, but nobody has an issue calling it a text editor.
booleandilemma 3y ago
For Windows development Visual Studio is still more powerful. People who have developed solely on Macs or juniors who started in 2020 with only web dev experience won't understand and they're usually the ones that have the "VS Code is better" opinion.
- OrderlyTiamat 3y ago
  I've developed in .NET, I've even worked with a large .NET monolith ( > 100 devs). Even in that circumstance while visual studio was installed by default, most devs used vs code. It's not just them young ones anymore.
  - JamesBarney 3y ago
    As someone who's used vs code occasionally but still primarily uses visual studio what are the big benefits you see of vs code of the traditional visual studio?
    - OrderlyTiamat 3y ago
      For me personally the use of vs was only during my studies. A comparison by me between the tools I've actually used extensively would be between emacs and code. Someone mentioned the visual aspact of vs. That I've literally used once, at the very start of my bachelor. Vs is confusing, huge, and densely feature packed. I think I just never took the time to enjoy the features vs has. This isn't weird when you consider my top choices: vs code and emacs both share the characteristic that they get out of the way when I'm doing my stuff. I usually want the bare bones, vim keybinds enabled workflow when I'm working, because it's fastest and it's what I know. I can use smart features like var renaming, autorefactoring etc. in all of these options, but in vs code and in emacs I feel less like they're butting in when I don't want them to, and when I'm changing settings or executing commands I'm not traversing a dense jungle of menus, settings and options like in vs. In short for me the experience is easier and therefore more flow like.
- tanseydavid 3y ago
  More like juniors who started in 2016.

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globular-toast 3y ago

Yeah, it's superior to Visual Studio because it's more like Emacs, a text editor. Emacs users saw the benefits of a single text editor a long, long time ago. Back when I started programming it was common for people to use a different IDE per language. There was VS, Eclipse, Dreamweaver etc. I thought that was insane. It's been funny seeing people finally realise the same a decade later.

no_wizard 3y ago
counterpoint: JetBrains IDEs are the sweetspot between absolute single purpose IDEs (like Eclipse) and text editors that require plugins to be useful (broadly speaking). I am all in on JetBrains, to be perfectly transparent, but I have yet to see anything come close to the seamless experience I've had with their IDEs
usrusr 3y ago
Eclipse a single purpose IDE? Back when eclipse was the dominant java IDE, it almost felt as if a language did not exist before it had its very own eclipse plugin.
- stiGGG 3y ago
  Yeah, didn’t they market themselves as the framework for IDEs? I can remember in the late 2000s Eclipse was very popular in the php community. The C/C++ plugin was also widely used.

wkat4242 3y ago

I don't agree. Visual Studio Code lacks the actual 'visual' part, like the form builder.

galangalalgol 3y ago
That is a good point about the name, never thought about it. And if I ever wanted to write gui code that only worked in windows, I guess I'd consider it? But that has never been a use case for me, and everything else about vscode is better.

SirMaster 3y ago

What can VS Code do that Visual Studio can’t?

thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
>> What can VS Code do that Visual Studio can’t? Run natively on Linux: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux
- galangalalgol 3y ago
  Set breakpoints and step through rust code running remotely on a microcontroller?

thesuavefactor 3y ago

Try publishing a .net webforms project in vs code. Or jetbrains Rider for that matter.

this_steve_j 3y ago
The gauntlet has been thrown! I respectfully decline the challenge, as I am no longer a gentleman of the ViewState society.

philippejara 3y ago

And so is emacs, but nobody has an issue calling it a text editor.

booleandilemma 3y ago

For Windows development Visual Studio is still more powerful. People who have developed solely on Macs or juniors who started in 2020 with only web dev experience won't understand and they're usually the ones that have the "VS Code is better" opinion.

OrderlyTiamat 3y ago
I've developed in .NET, I've even worked with a large .NET monolith ( > 100 devs). Even in that circumstance while visual studio was installed by default, most devs used vs code. It's not just them young ones anymore.
- JamesBarney 3y ago
  As someone who's used vs code occasionally but still primarily uses visual studio what are the big benefits you see of vs code of the traditional visual studio?
  - OrderlyTiamat 3y ago
    For me personally the use of vs was only during my studies. A comparison by me between the tools I've actually used extensively would be between emacs and code. Someone mentioned the visual aspact of vs. That I've literally used once, at the very start of my bachelor. Vs is confusing, huge, and densely feature packed. I think I just never took the time to enjoy the features vs has. This isn't weird when you consider my top choices: vs code and emacs both share the characteristic that they get out of the way when I'm doing my stuff. I usually want the bare bones, vim keybinds enabled workflow when I'm working, because it's fastest and it's what I know. I can use smart features like var renaming, autorefactoring etc. in all of these options, but in vs code and in emacs I feel less like they're butting in when I don't want them to, and when I'm changing settings or executing commands I'm not traversing a dense jungle of menus, settings and options like in vs. In short for me the experience is easier and therefore more flow like.
tanseydavid 3y ago
More like juniors who started in 2016.