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People often forget that belonging to a community and being able to connect with people is a privilege itself.

by kubb 3y ago

mp05 3y ago
Spot on. I grew up without real community thanks to a mother ashamed of her heritage in a pretty backwards part of America, so I missed out on a lot of critical interactions. I didn't realize how fundamentally, socially broken I was until my mid-late 20s.
HPsquared 3y ago
This is the primary issue of the last 50 years.
- xyzelement 3y ago
  I think this is going to "prove religious people right" in the next generation because I find that folks of faith are immune from this!
  - escapedmoose 3y ago
    Churchgoing/practicing folks of faith, maybe. There are plenty of religious folks who don’t partake in communal practice and who are generally miserable people. (By “religious folks” I mean “people who have spiritual beliefs aligning with a major religion”)
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    I wonder if volunteering is the answer for non religious people.
shadowgovt 3y ago
I believe this research project (an older instance of publishing follow-up results) was the subject of an Achewood comic to this effect. https://achewood.com/2016/04/15/title.html https://achewood.com/2016/04/15/title.html On the one hand: sure, it's useful to have some scientific, controlled grounding in the value of building community. On the other hand, any sad and lonely soul on the planet could probably have told us this without commissioning a nearly century-long research project.
PreachSoup 3y ago
With the current trend of no child left behind style of policy, we might start to break the community to reduce the privilege /s
- khazhoux 3y ago
  Indeed. The privilege of community has been found to disproportionally impact historically marginalized people, and must be dismantled to ensure proper equity.
bumby 3y ago
Can you explain further? I assume by privilege, you mean a privilege to a specific class. I'm just not sure what class you'd be referring to because the one's I immediately thought of would seem to have a lot of counterpoints. E.g., lower socio-economic classes often have a strong sense of community, sometimes by the nature of being more dependent on one another. So wealth class doesn't seem to fit. But maybe you were thinking of some other class.
- digging 3y ago
  > I assume by privilege, you mean a privilege to a specific class I think you started with a misstep. It's not class-specific. In some ways the middle class is most vulnerable due to the isolation of sprawling, car-dependent suburbs. But it's also tied to the inability of many young people to remain rooted in one place for economic, social, and other issues. How many people from your high school still live in the same town? There are other causes, but one's level of wealth isn't necessarily a direct cause.
  - bumby 3y ago
    Right, but I wasn't limiting the idea to class, I was just using it as a counter-example. So, where does the privilege reside if not socio-economic class? There are many other classes, I just don't know which (if any) was intended. The US has defined a number of protected classes, such as: - race - religion - national origin - age - sex - veteran - disability - (and others)
    - digging 3y ago
      > I think you started with a misstep. It's not class-specific.
      - bumby 3y ago
        Despite your matter-of-fact proclamation, privilege is quite often defined by class. >A special advantage, immunity, permission, right, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by an individual, class, or caste. >So, where does the privilege reside Considering the OP connected it to a social group (ie community), I don't think class is a misstep, considering 'class' is literally a collection of individuals. I was pointing out that classifying people by income didn't seem to make sense and asking what classification they had in mind. While you're not the OP, maybe you have a different thought. But you haven't clued any of us in as to what that is, just that 'it's not class'. Without any clarification, it comes across like you're just bristling at the idea of class privilege rather than giving it much substantive thought.
aaron695 3y ago
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People often forget that belonging to a community and being able to connect with people is a privilege itself.

by kubb 3y ago

People often forget that belonging to a community and being able to connect with people is a privilege itself.

mp05 3y ago

Spot on. I grew up without real community thanks to a mother ashamed of her heritage in a pretty backwards part of America, so I missed out on a lot of critical interactions. I didn't realize how fundamentally, socially broken I was until my mid-late 20s.

HPsquared 3y ago

This is the primary issue of the last 50 years.

xyzelement 3y ago
I think this is going to "prove religious people right" in the next generation because I find that folks of faith are immune from this!
- escapedmoose 3y ago
  Churchgoing/practicing folks of faith, maybe. There are plenty of religious folks who don’t partake in communal practice and who are generally miserable people. (By “religious folks” I mean “people who have spiritual beliefs aligning with a major religion”)
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  I wonder if volunteering is the answer for non religious people.

shadowgovt 3y ago

I believe this research project (an older instance of publishing follow-up results) was the subject of an Achewood comic to this effect. https://achewood.com/2016/04/15/title.html https://achewood.com/2016/04/15/title.html On the one hand: sure, it's useful to have some scientific, controlled grounding in the value of building community. On the other hand, any sad and lonely soul on the planet could probably have told us this without commissioning a nearly century-long research project.

PreachSoup 3y ago

With the current trend of no child left behind style of policy, we might start to break the community to reduce the privilege /s

khazhoux 3y ago
Indeed. The privilege of community has been found to disproportionally impact historically marginalized people, and must be dismantled to ensure proper equity.

bumby 3y ago

Can you explain further? I assume by privilege, you mean a privilege to a specific class. I'm just not sure what class you'd be referring to because the one's I immediately thought of would seem to have a lot of counterpoints. E.g., lower socio-economic classes often have a strong sense of community, sometimes by the nature of being more dependent on one another. So wealth class doesn't seem to fit. But maybe you were thinking of some other class.

digging 3y ago
> I assume by privilege, you mean a privilege to a specific class I think you started with a misstep. It's not class-specific. In some ways the middle class is most vulnerable due to the isolation of sprawling, car-dependent suburbs. But it's also tied to the inability of many young people to remain rooted in one place for economic, social, and other issues. How many people from your high school still live in the same town? There are other causes, but one's level of wealth isn't necessarily a direct cause.
- bumby 3y ago
  Right, but I wasn't limiting the idea to class, I was just using it as a counter-example. So, where does the privilege reside if not socio-economic class? There are many other classes, I just don't know which (if any) was intended. The US has defined a number of protected classes, such as: - race - religion - national origin - age - sex - veteran - disability - (and others)
  - digging 3y ago
    > I think you started with a misstep. It's not class-specific.
    - bumby 3y ago
      Despite your matter-of-fact proclamation, privilege is quite often defined by class. >A special advantage, immunity, permission, right, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by an individual, class, or caste. >So, where does the privilege reside Considering the OP connected it to a social group (ie community), I don't think class is a misstep, considering 'class' is literally a collection of individuals. I was pointing out that classifying people by income didn't seem to make sense and asking what classification they had in mind. While you're not the OP, maybe you have a different thought. But you haven't clued any of us in as to what that is, just that 'it's not class'. Without any clarification, it comes across like you're just bristling at the idea of class privilege rather than giving it much substantive thought.

aaron695 3y ago

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