8 ms·

Glad to see usability improvements here, but I won't be using it until there's a light theme (asking an application to respect the OS theme is apparently too mu

Glad to see usability improvements here, but I won't be using it until there's a light theme (asking an application to respect the OS theme is apparently too much these days).

westurner 3y ago
"Light mode button?" https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/576 https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/576
eikenberry 3y ago
Welcome to the club. So many things still don't support a dark theme either. Why aren't dark/light modes standard these days? Super annoying to have to hide a bunch of light mode windows when I'm in a meeting as they reflect brightly off my glasses.
- diarrhea 3y ago
  A very Hacker-News complaint, if I’ve ever seen one.
- ravenstine 3y ago
  1997: Now you can completely customize the window UI with any colors you like! 2023: We have no plans to have our UI not blind you past 8pm.
  - paulryanrogers 3y ago
    That's because before Mac OS X theming was nearly free for apps, so long as they didn't override colors from the OS widgets. Once Apple started dictating UI fashion you'll take it as is or inverted. If you have different needs then go pound sand. After a decade or so they suddenly discovered dark modes are a thing. The move to the web also took some pressure off because you can override colors in your browser ... Unless you have a per-app browser locked inside Electron or similar.
    - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
      Thank god some (native desktop) software is still sane about this. Look at Blender's granularity! https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/142666/how-can-i-change-theme-for-background-color https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/142666/how-can-i...
  - mixmastamyk 3y ago
    Windows 3.1 had Hot Dog Stand and was very configurable. ~1991.
smilingemoji 3y ago
[deleted]
- lagniappe 3y ago
  lynx gopher://hngopher.com
- ruricolist 3y ago
  The Dark Reader browser extension works for HN.
  - pests 3y ago
    Chrome has a force-dark-mode option in the :config too with heuristics on how to change things with different modes.
- pests 3y ago
  Dark mode causes more issues than light mode for a lot of conditions. Providing only a darkmode is worse than providing only a light mode, IMO.
  - drdaeman 3y ago
    Every OS has “system” colors. Even with non-native widgets, I have no idea why people don’t use those.
- computerliker 3y ago
  HNcute for chrome still works nicely! https://caro.io/hn-cute https://caro.io/hn-cute
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
shaan7 3y ago
I had to hard facepalm reading the other replies to this. There are people suffering from things like Astigmatism (myself included) who have an extremely hard time, including headaches, using dark themes. People really need to be a bit more empathetic. Also, as the OP pointed out, people somehow get angry when all you asked is for an app to follow the system's theme. It has been such a huge regression. EDIT: typos and clarity
- least 3y ago
  > Also, as the OP pointed out, people somehow get angry when all you asked is for an app to follow the system's theme. It has been such a huge regression. Was there a time when Podman Desktop supported a light mode? You could change the CSS yourself, which given you only need a light mode, would be pretty trivial. Please keep in mind that dark themes were introduced as an accessibility feature as well, but not every project can or will prioritize it.
  - shaan7 3y ago
    My bad, I did not mean a regression in Podman Desktop specifically, but UI engineering in general. A (couple of?) decades ago it was basically a given that apps will adjust to your system theme (except fancy stuff like Winamp).
- mh- 3y ago
  > Astigmatism Wait, is this why I've stopped liking dark mode? I was diagnosed with astigmatism a few years ago. Never connected the two until now. I find it physically unpleasant to look at during daylight hours, in a way I can't explain to my coworkers.
  - aquariusDue 3y ago
    As a counter example I too suffer from astigmatism and I prefer dark themes with high contrast. Sometimes I'll pick a theme that doesn't exactly vibe color wise just for the high contrast otherwise it's hard to focus, both mentally and actually reading what's on the screen. I also zoom in most websites, UIs, code editors and the terminal, so take my personal experience as just another point and nothing definitive.

Glad to see usability improvements here, but I won't be using it until there's a light theme (asking an application to respect the OS theme is apparently too much these days).

westurner 3y ago

"Light mode button?" https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/576 https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/576

eikenberry 3y ago

Welcome to the club. So many things still don't support a dark theme either. Why aren't dark/light modes standard these days? Super annoying to have to hide a bunch of light mode windows when I'm in a meeting as they reflect brightly off my glasses.

diarrhea 3y ago
A very Hacker-News complaint, if I’ve ever seen one.
ravenstine 3y ago
1997: Now you can completely customize the window UI with any colors you like! 2023: We have no plans to have our UI not blind you past 8pm.
- paulryanrogers 3y ago
  That's because before Mac OS X theming was nearly free for apps, so long as they didn't override colors from the OS widgets. Once Apple started dictating UI fashion you'll take it as is or inverted. If you have different needs then go pound sand. After a decade or so they suddenly discovered dark modes are a thing. The move to the web also took some pressure off because you can override colors in your browser ... Unless you have a per-app browser locked inside Electron or similar.
  - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
    Thank god some (native desktop) software is still sane about this. Look at Blender's granularity! https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/142666/how-can-i-change-theme-for-background-color https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/142666/how-can-i...
- mixmastamyk 3y ago
  Windows 3.1 had Hot Dog Stand and was very configurable. ~1991.

smilingemoji 3y ago

[deleted]

lagniappe 3y ago
lynx gopher://hngopher.com
ruricolist 3y ago
The Dark Reader browser extension works for HN.
- pests 3y ago
  Chrome has a force-dark-mode option in the :config too with heuristics on how to change things with different modes.
pests 3y ago
Dark mode causes more issues than light mode for a lot of conditions. Providing only a darkmode is worse than providing only a light mode, IMO.
- drdaeman 3y ago
  Every OS has “system” colors. Even with non-native widgets, I have no idea why people don’t use those.
computerliker 3y ago
HNcute for chrome still works nicely! https://caro.io/hn-cute https://caro.io/hn-cute
deleted 3y ago
[deleted]

shaan7 3y ago

I had to hard facepalm reading the other replies to this. There are people suffering from things like Astigmatism (myself included) who have an extremely hard time, including headaches, using dark themes. People really need to be a bit more empathetic. Also, as the OP pointed out, people somehow get angry when all you asked is for an app to follow the system's theme. It has been such a huge regression. EDIT: typos and clarity

least 3y ago
> Also, as the OP pointed out, people somehow get angry when all you asked is for an app to follow the system's theme. It has been such a huge regression. Was there a time when Podman Desktop supported a light mode? You could change the CSS yourself, which given you only need a light mode, would be pretty trivial. Please keep in mind that dark themes were introduced as an accessibility feature as well, but not every project can or will prioritize it.
- shaan7 3y ago
  My bad, I did not mean a regression in Podman Desktop specifically, but UI engineering in general. A (couple of?) decades ago it was basically a given that apps will adjust to your system theme (except fancy stuff like Winamp).
mh- 3y ago
> Astigmatism Wait, is this why I've stopped liking dark mode? I was diagnosed with astigmatism a few years ago. Never connected the two until now. I find it physically unpleasant to look at during daylight hours, in a way I can't explain to my coworkers.
- aquariusDue 3y ago
  As a counter example I too suffer from astigmatism and I prefer dark themes with high contrast. Sometimes I'll pick a theme that doesn't exactly vibe color wise just for the high contrast otherwise it's hard to focus, both mentally and actually reading what's on the screen. I also zoom in most websites, UIs, code editors and the terminal, so take my personal experience as just another point and nothing definitive.