100% agree. I just think of GiveWell as a totally different thing than "effective altruism" now, even though it is where I first heard of the concept. (And that

100% agree. I just think of GiveWell as a totally different thing than "effective altruism" now, even though it is where I first heard of the concept. (And that predates the SBF scandal by quite a while!) To their credit, they never recommended these "longtermism" initiatives as effective places to direct charitable funds. So I think their credibility as an organization comes out of this intact, despite some of the people originally associated with them coming out looking much worse. But I dunno, maybe they and/or people like us who support them should be doing more to explicitly distance them from the rest of the EA movement.